Cohiba medio siglo

[Winchester21]

I am a sucker for high end Cohibas. I am addicted to the distinctive Cohiba  taste profile and I will spend my last extra dollar to get a box. I know that they are overpriced and all that but you only live once. So I pulled the trigger on the latest 24/24 offering. They arrived yesterday and I had to try one prior to the usual 4 weeks in the humidor. The box looked beautiful upon opening. Medium barnyard smell. Codes SUM OCT 16 Red sticker PSP. 4inch 52 ring gauge.  Basically a half of a Siglo 6 which is my all time favorite Cohiba when I find a good verified batch.  Medium dark wrapper color with fantastic construction. It was windy outside and I had to touch it up with my lighter twice.  Wonderful floral coffe bean rich tobacco taste in the front end.  Quickly changed to a complex kaleidoscope of different flavors- too many for me to identify or name. Classic creamy Cohiba taste profile with a ton of smoke. Strong nicotine buzz after the first third. Is it as good as some of the special classic and or special releases? Right now I would say no but after it settles down it will easily be one of the best boxes in my humidor. I don't buy Behinkes and I smoked my last Grand Robusto so this will be my reserve stock for special occasions. I am very satisfied with the purchase and I will revisit this box in a few months.

[SticksAndSticks]

Ughhhh you're making it so hard to not buy a box. I've been drooling over these since they released, definitely my format and i'm glad to see them getting good reviews. Do you think they are stronger than the rest of the Siglo line with the Medio Tiempo added?

[Winchester21]

Have not tried the Medio Tiempo yet. I am pretty gun shy about buying elsewhere given the price and inconsistencies in this crummy current marketplace. I am pretty much a 24/24 guy when it comes to Cohibas.  The blend seems pretty close to a top end siglo 6 in strength and taste.

I find some variations in strength in the siglo line with the darker wrapper examples providing the strongest presentation. In this case the wrapper was medium but the quality was off the chart.  I really had to struggle to cough up 457.00 and I was nervous about the purchase until I saw the product . This is the second most expensive box in my collection .  Just imagine the top 5% of all siglo products with a 52 ring gauge and there I have it. Bear in mind that this box was PSP quality with the price to go along with it so I would expect such results. Good luck if u decide to buy a box.

[Zigatoh]

Isn't it medio siglo as in 'medium' and nothing to do with medio tempo, which is behike only right?

[Winchester21]

Not familiar with medio tempo myself. Not going for any Behike unless it is 24/24 or from a friend where I can examine the product.  Never tasted one.  I keep waiting for a buddy to give me one but it has not happened yet?

[Smallclub]

11 hours ago, SticksAndSticks said:

 Do you think they are stronger than the rest of the Siglo line with the Medio Tiempo added?

There's no medio tiempo leaves in the Medio Siglo… It's called "medio" because of its "mid-size"…

And again we're not even sure that the "medio tiempo" thing in the BHK line isn't a trickery; I have yet to hear someone describing what this leaf brings to the cigar; I haven't noted anything special in the few BHKs I have smoked, and they were not stronger than the Siglo line…

[rhcolbert]

4 minutes ago, Smallclub said:

There's no medio tiempo leaves in the Medio Siglo… It's called "medio" because of its "mid-size"…

And again we're not even sure that the "medio tiempo" thing in the BHK line isn't a trickery; I have yet to hear someone describing what this leaf brings to the cigar; I haven't noted anything special in the few BHKs I have smoked, and they were not stronger than the Siglo line…

I'll leave the debate up to you guys.  I'm still getting twitches and shakes paying in the teens for a single stick ? 

[Corylax18]

25 minutes ago, Smallclub said:

There's no medio tiempo leaves in the Medio Siglo… 

Yes.

26 minutes ago, Smallclub said:

It's called "medio" because of its "mid-size"…

No.

Medio Siglo=Half Century 

To Commemorate 50 years of Cohiba.

Like the original "Siglo" Line I to V to commemorate the 5 Centuries since the "Discovery" of Cuba. 1494-1994

[SticksAndSticks]

Oh nice thanks for the correction everyone. Good to know!

 

[NSXCIGAR]

Been hearing generally positive things about the Medio Siglo but the price point on these is beyond absurd. A cigar 60% the size of the Siglo VI but priced at 90% of it. And it's not a great vitola, IMHO.

I might end up trying one at some point, but there's no way on god's green earth I'm giving HSA my money for a box of MS over Lanceros or Robustos, or Esplendidos. I'd be very surprised if the MS is better than any of the Linea Clasica with a couple of years on it. Unless money is no object, my advice is save your coin for some El Laguito Linea Clasica and rest them for 2 years. You'll be glad you did.

[havanaclub]

Been hearing generally positive things about the Medio Siglo but the price point on these is beyond absurd. A cigar 60% the size of the Siglo VI but priced at 90% of it. And it's not a great vitola, IMHO.

I might end up trying one at some point, but there's no way on god's green earth I'm giving HSA my money for a box of MS over Lanceros or Robustos, or Esplendidos. I'd be very surprised if the MS is better than any of the Linea Clasica with a couple of years on it. Unless money is no object, my advice is save your coin for some El Laguito Linea Clasica and rest them for 2 years. You'll be glad you did.

Exactly what I was thinking


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[Arinjit]

My buddy bought a couple for us to try while I was visiting him in Denmark a couple of months ago. The weather wasn't perfect to truly enjoy a cigar - cold and windy. However, to me it didn't taste that much different than a Robusto to demand the higher price for a smaller cigar. I am a big fan of the Robusto and continue to be so.

[dowjr1]

13 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said:

Been hearing generally positive things about the Medio Siglo but the price point on these is beyond absurd. A cigar 60% the size of the Siglo VI but priced at 90% of it. And it's not a great vitola, IMHO.

I might end up trying one at some point, but there's no way on god's green earth I'm giving HSA my money for a box of MS over Lanceros or Robustos, or Esplendidos. I'd be very surprised if the MS is better than any of the Linea Clasica with a couple of years on it. Unless money is no object, my advice is save your coin for some El Laguito Linea Clasica and rest them for 2 years. You'll be glad you did.

What is MS and what is El Laguito Linea Clasica?

[Smallclub]

18 minutes ago, dowjr1 said:

What is MS and what is El Laguito Linea Clasica?

MS: Medio Siglo

El Laguito for "made at El Laguito factory", bearing the El Laguito code…

[dowjr1]

Thanks!

[amaxp81]

are you a sales rep for Cohiba? I'm drooling by your description...

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[SignalJoe]

5 hours ago, dowjr1 said:

What is MS and what is El Laguito Linea Clasica?

Linea Classica = Classic line; Robusto, Esplendido, Corona Especial, Lancero.  Pretty much covers the non Behike, Siglo or Maduros.  

[Winchester21]

7 hours ago, amaxp81 said:

are you a sales rep for Cohiba? I'm drooling by your description...

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No sales rep just a poor sucker with no will power when it comes to Cohibas in general. Plus my stock is very low?

[Winchester21]

11 hours ago, Arinjit said:

My buddy bought a couple for us to try while I was visiting him in Denmark a couple of months ago. The weather wasn't perfect to truly enjoy a cigar - cold and windy. However, to me it didn't taste that much different than a Robusto to demand the higher price for a smaller cigar. I am a big fan of the Robusto and continue to be so.

The robusto is my favorite size but lately I can't find any verified decent ones to buy nonetheless happy with the purchase

[NSXCIGAR]

I am curious to see if the appreciation rate on these is consistent with the Linea Clasica. It technically is a Siglo series release, and the Siglos don't generally appreciate as much as the Linea Clasica, although the MS is being mareleted as kind of the line's "halo" model. The starting price is so high I just don't know if these can command $900-1000 in 5 or 6 years like EL Esplendidos or Lanceros can. The high starting price might create a bit of upper resistance for appreciation.

[JohnS]

If you want to know where this belongs in the Cohiba family, be mindful that there are 4 lines...

* Linea Clasica - the original Laguito No.1(Lancero) , Laguito No.2 (Coronas Especiales) and Laguito No.3 (Panatelas) introduced into private production in 1967 (general release in 1984) then expanded for general production in 1989 with the Esplendidos, Robustos and Exquisitos. In 2012, the Piramides Extra became the first torpedo cigar to join this line.

* Linea 1492 - Siglo I, II, III, IV and V developed in 1992 and released generally in 1994. The Siglo VI was introduced in 2002. The Medio Siglo was introduced in 2016.

* Maduro 5 line includes the Genios, Magicos and Secretos introduced in 2007, each containing maduro wrappers.

* Behike line in 2010 introduced the BHK 52, BHK 54 and BHK 56.

I would think the Medio Siglo would be akin to the H.Upmann Half Corona, i.e a fuller-bodied Cohiba Siglo possibly more like the Siglo VI blend then the Siglos I-V. I agree in regards to price point, like similar recent releases such as the H.Upmann Connossieur A, H.Upmann Magnum 54 and Partagas Serie D No.6, Habanos S.A has opted for premium pricing in relation to other vitolas within similar marcas. Why this is makes no sense to me from a marketing point of view.

You have to feel for vendors trying to move this stock at $US500 a box of 25 for a cigar that is 52 ring gauge by 102 mm in length, which is 2/3 the size of a Siglo VI, but not 2/3 the price!

[Fugu]

On 29/04/2017 at 9:39 PM, Corylax18 said:

Medio Siglo=Half Century 

To Commemorate 50 years of Cohiba.

Like the original "Siglo" Line I to V to commemorate the 5 Centuries since the "Discovery" of Cuba. 1494-1994

True - but 1492-1992 

[NSXCIGAR]

On 5/1/2017 at 6:19 AM, JohnS said:

I would think the Medio Siglo would be akin to the H.Upmann Half Corona, i.e a fuller-bodied Cohiba Siglo possibly more like the Siglo VI blend then the Siglos I-V. I agree in regards to price point, like similar recent releases such as the H.Upmann Connossieur A, H.Upmann Magnum 54 and Partagas Serie D No.6, Habanos S.A has opted for premium pricing in relation to other vitolas within similar marcas. Why this is makes no sense to me from a marketing point of view.

You have to feel for vendors trying to move this stock at $US500 a box of 25 for a cigar that is 52 ring gauge by 102 mm in length, which is 2/3 the size of a Siglo VI, but not 2/3 the price!

The MS is probably the single worst example of HSA trying to gouge money for no reason I've seen in 20 years of dealing with HSA. The MS should be situated within the Siglo line as a short Siglo VI, essentially, and priced commensurately with the other Siglos. I don't know what they are thinking pricing this where it's at. And you're right--this started with the PSD6 and is the case with the Mag 54 as we discussed in another thread. The others like the Connie A are at least special production so I'll let them slide, and I'll also give them credit for high quality overall. But the pricing still isn't as out of line as the MS. At least the SC Torreon is a large special production cigar and comes in a cool jar. This MS has nothing going for it to justify the price.

[JohnS]

The only Cohiba to be deleted is the Coronas in the early 90s (due to its similarity to the Cohiba Siglo III). Let's see what happens to the Medio Siglo in the long-term.

[Lotusguy]

The only Cohiba to be deleted is the Coronas in the early 90s (due to its similarity to the Cohiba Siglo III). Let's see what happens to the Medio Siglo in the long-term.

This is one release I definitely wouldn't mind being cut