Cohiba Fail

[backbone]

I had my first dud Cuban last night.  I have just gotten back into the hobby about a year ago and only smoke once a week.

I tried to fire up a Cohiba Pyramid extra tubo I got from our host last night and after the initial light I could see a hole was tunneled through (or just missing) and wouldn't let the cigar burn.

The outside of the Cigar was beautiful the end looked great, I guess they forgot to put in a roll of tobacco.  I felt the cigar up and down and it was underfilled.

I guess the almighty Cohiba brand is not immune to poor construction.

Any one else with similar issues?

 

[stogieluver]

Box code & date?

[rxavier1979]

35 minutes ago, backbone said:

Any one else with similar issues?

 

More often then I'd like...

[Shaunster]

Boxcode / date is irrelevant, any cigar from any marca could have construction issues.

Price does not equal quality.

[canadianbeaver]

Box code and date is totally relevant. Want to know who made it, the date and when it came from here and if I have any to compare.

Sorry that smoke was not a happy one.

Bummer.

CB

 

[backbone]

I got it off of a 24/24 end of last year.  I believe the year was Dec 2012, I don't remember the box code as I only purchased three three packs of tubos.

Maybe someone here with better accounting will remember them.  I bought them 10/13/2016 from 24/24.

[Shaunster]

Box code and date is totally relevant. Want to know who made it, the date and when it came from here and if I have any to compare.

Sorry that smoke was not a happy one.

Bummer.

CB

 

You know your cigars in a box are not rolled by the same person? It is irrelevant.

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[stogieluver]

12 minutes ago, Shaunster said:

 

You know your cigars in a box are not rolled by the same person? It is irrelevant.

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Need to learn about manners on this board. No need for smart ass rhetorical questions. 

Box code/date is relevant if someone is asking for that information in an attempt to be helpful. 

[Shaunster]

Need to learn about manners on this board. No need for smart ass rhetorical questions. 

Box code/date is relevant if someone is asking for that information in an attempt to be helpful. 

Wasnt smart ass, just factual.

How will box code or date help if a cigar has bad construction?

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[canadianbeaver]

Check out the recent thread about 2016 cigars. This year, cigars are thought to be under rolled with lousy wrappers. A year and brand issue.

Give it a read. The guys owns the website.

Welcome, by the way. No big deal.

 

CB

[Smallclub]

I fail to see what kind of enlightning the box code could bring in this case (other than El Laguito/not El Laguito). The cigar might be a single dude in a perfect box…

[canadianbeaver]

Whatever. All points are fine. Just was asking about the code on the bottom 'cause the OP said it sucked.

[Shaunster]

Didnt mean to be rude guys!

If you get a duff smoke in a box its just nothing you can do about it, box code means little IMO.

Smoking a upmann Con A now, chilled a little!

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[dangolf18]

Could've been how the cigar has been stored...also rollers make mistakes every now and then. That said, I've almost never had a Cohiba that didn't burn well. 

[backbone]

Thanks for all the input. 

I believe it was missing some inside parts.  It clearly had a tunnel about the size of the head of a pencil.  I will try and dig it out of the bin and post a pic tonight.

It has been stored well on my end, who knows about the past 4 years.

[NSXCIGAR]

No conclusions can be drawn from a single bad cigar. If the majority of the box was bad, and I mean >13/25 (not 2/3 or 3/5) I would take note of the box code, and see if there's anyone else with similar complaints from boxes with similar codes. If no other negative feedback is apparent, it was just a dud box, or perhaps storage conditions of the box. Either way, isolated case. I wouldn't get too worked up about box code without an apparent pattern of negative feedback from multiple credible people who are more likely to be storing their cigars properly.

Cohiba generates duds and poorly rolled cigars too, at possibly only marginally less frequency than the other marcas. 

[vladdraq]

3 hours ago, Shaunster said:

 

Wasnt smart ass, just factual.

How will box code or date help if a cigar has bad construction?

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a bit of hard feeling was sipping out, but i tend to agree, box code doesn't help to much too retrace whatsoever, beside the factory of course.

If i'm not mistaken, after cigars are rolled and put in boxes (or kept bulk ?) are moved to storing facilities. Box codes are applied when they are leaving this facilities, those going out from the island are frozen the rest just shipped to the stores.

 

And in the same box you can have cigars from different rollers, sorted mainly by colour.

 

[canadianbeaver]

You guys are thinkin' too hard? It's from the 24/24. Some of us buy from the 24/24. Was it the same as ours we bought from here? Not a country wide intellectual brain scan thing. LOLOLOLOLOL!

But gettin' the letters on the box might tell which box to look at. Not rocket science or conspiracy. Also can tell if it was from here, not mixed up Joe Shmoe's of Thornbury (where I live).

CB

[vladdraq]

man, you just ruin my day...No conspiracy?  ahhh merde.

[stogieluver]

5 minutes ago, canadianbeaver said:

You guys are thinkin' too hard? It's from the 24/24. Some of us buy from the 24/24. Was it the same as ours we bought from here? Not a country wide intellectual brain scan thing. LOLOLOLOLOL!

But gettin' the letters on the box might tell which box to look at. Not rocket science or conspiracy. Also can tell if it was from here, not mixed up Joe Shmoe's of Thornbury (where I live).

CB

Right on, Beaver!  Exactly. 

All I wanted to know was the damned box code & date. Didn't appreciate the attitude from the newbie.  Had to check & make sure I hadn't landed back on the CA Cuban Forum. ?

[luv2fly]

A request for codes or most any other question is perfectly acceptable.  It was simply a question.  That is why we are here.  To ask questions and learn.  If one thinks a question is pointless, then by all means feel that way but please do not respond with negativity on the person(s) that ask.  Again, we are all here to further our knowledge and I think there is not a stupid question except the one that was not asked.  Just my HO.  Carry on. 

[Profmd]

36 minutes ago, stogieluver said:

Right on, Beaver!  Exactly. 

All I wanted to know was the damned box code & date. Didn't appreciate the attitude from the newbie.  Had to check & make sure I hadn't landed back on the CA Cuban Forum. ?

Outstanding!!

[backbone]

Redemption!!!!

[Ethernut]

10 hours ago, backbone said:

Any one else with similar issues?

 

Had a CoRo lastnight in fact. Was snooze city. Cohiba is as susceptible to quality variance as anything else. 

[NSXCIGAR]

6 hours ago, vladdraq said:

If i'm not mistaken, after cigars are rolled and put in boxes (or kept bulk ?) are moved to storing facilities. Box codes are applied when they are leaving this facilities, those going out from the island are frozen the rest just shipped to the stores.

Boxes are stamped at their respective factories. There are many factory tour photos showing the stamps lying about with that current month's date. I believe they are then put into large cardboard boxes at the factory for transport. These may not be mastercase boxes and these boxes may travel to another facility for transfer into the mastercases, but they are code stamped and placed in large cardboard boxes before leaving their factories.

In fact when bundwallah visited La Corona in 2013, the tour guide offered to stamp anything they had with the current code stamp:

Makes sense, as if they were all stamped at a central facility there would be one person with 20 different stamps for that month having to constantly double check the boxes, double check the stamps, especially as a cigar like the PSD4 or Monte 4 is made in no less than 10 different factories. Too easy to get confused and make mistakes.