El Presidente Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 A good read. Always surprises me when I see them .......and it shouldn't. http://cubajournal.co/why-ox-remain-vital-to-cubas-economy/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffDaddie Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Until Cuba can get there act together oxen is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Kipling Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 On the plus side, their skies aren't filled with China-like air pollution.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvickery Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 52 minutes ago, JR Kipling said: On the plus side, their skies aren't filled with China-like air pollution. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Uh ... have you been in Havana ??? I have never been to china but Havana gets pretty bad . derrek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Kipling Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 26 minutes ago, dvickery said: Uh ... have you been in Havana ??? I have never been to china but Havana gets pretty bad . derrek I've been to China, but not to Havana.....yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stogieluver Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrusso14 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Uh ... have you been in Havana ??? I have never been to china but Havana gets pretty bad . derrekHa nothing like getting in that first taxi after leaving the airport. Windows rolled down to take in the sights... Windows rolled back up after the first vehicle with thick plumes of smoke passes by Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGC Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Uh ... have you been in Havana ??? I have never been to china but Havana gets pretty bad . derrekI'm sure all the old vehicles have been retrofitted with fuel injection, O2 sensors, mass flow sensors, and catalytic converters 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Having been to both Beijing and China and Havana and Cuba a few times, Havana has far less cars but ...Havana wins hands down :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I've said this before but I think the oxen are great. Fuel shortages don't affect them. They've been bred for use in a tropical climate (I think the breed comes from the Philippines originally) and they can reproduce themselves (although not the poor chap in the picture!). I'm lucky that I got to drive one once, on Hector Luis's neighbour's farm. His name was Palomo (the ox) and would take voice commands but I think he had a problem with my accent! (both the farmer and the ox). The thing about oxen is, look at the picture below. That's a single-blade tilling type thing hooked up to the ox. It was used for weeding, after the seedlings are planted. Some of the seedlings that I hadn't yet trampled are still visible.. There's about 18 inches between the rows. Tyres can be put on tractors so they could make it down those gaps but they'd be so skinny they would compact the soil, not good for drainage or for the roots of seedlings that need to grow to 6 feet in three months. Tractors would be great for Cuban farmers for all kinds of work but for now oxen do lots of tobacco-related jobs very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 On 2/14/2017 at 0:13 PM, Brandon said: I'm sure all the old vehicles have been retrofitted with fuel injection, O2 sensors, mass flow sensors, and catalytic converters I'm not so sure about that! I have a theory, many of the cars I've been in have the exhaust leading directly to the interior. Thus no external emissions at all! Perfect! I find I sometimes have to steady myself when I get out of a car though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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