foursite12 Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: i love the last line - "he has rearranged the way we all think". Exactly
RickHendeson Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 My favorite quote is probably: ✔ @IrvineWelsh I'm a Dylan fan, but this is an ill conceived nostalgia award wrenched from the rancid prostates of senile, gibbering hippies. 7:11 AM - 13 Oct 2016 968 968 Retweets 1
Ken Gargett Posted October 14, 2016 Author Posted October 14, 2016 i also understand the lack of overwhelming endearment for his voice but it is distinctive in the extreme (and perhaps less offensive to those of us whom have equally dire voices). brett whitley, one of our greatest artists who sadly killed himself with drugs (actually looked a bit like dylan), described his voice as "full of mango and courvoisier". which i think is a great way to think of it.
Ken Gargett Posted October 14, 2016 Author Posted October 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, RickHendeson said: My favorite quote is probably: ✔ @IrvineWelsh I'm a Dylan fan, but this is an ill conceived nostalgia award wrenched from the rancid prostates of senile, gibbering hippies. 7:11 AM - 13 Oct 2016 968 968 Retweets perhaps mr welsh was expecting the award himself and is a smidge bitter it went where better deserved. again, each to his own, but the little i have read from mr welsh, may i suggest that he needn't start clearing space on his shelf any time soon.
PapaDisco Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 40 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said: i also understand the lack of overwhelming endearment for his voice but it is distinctive in the extreme (and perhaps less offensive to those of us whom have equally dire voices). brett whitley, one of our greatest artists who sadly killed himself with drugs (actually looked a bit like dylan), described his voice as "full of mango and courvoisier". which i think is a great way to think of it. I'd say courvoisier (a double) and a double corona. Saw Dylan perform in Vietnam oh, like 5 years ago. At the start he was really in bad voice (70 and still rolling, what else would you expect) but about 3-4 songs in he warmed up and then it was like exactly the same voice from the 60's. Amazing career and for him to still be doing what he's doing . . . well, we should all be so lucky!
Ken Gargett Posted October 14, 2016 Author Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, PapaDisco said: I'd say courvoisier (a double) and a double corona. Saw Dylan perform in Vietnam oh, like 5 years ago. At the start he was really in bad voice (70 and still rolling, what else would you expect) but about 3-4 songs in he warmed up and then it was like exactly the same voice from the 60's. Amazing career and for him to still be doing what he's doing . . . well, we should all be so lucky! he does have a reputation for being a little variable in quality of concerts. i love the bloke but i don't go to his concerts. would hate to go to a dud. seen him twice - once brizzy and once london, with tom petty. terrific concert but the one in brizzy was sensational. it was late 70s, the time of the budokan concert. just thrilling. he did a 2nd encore, though it took the crowd about 20 minutes of yelling and stamping to get him back. i heard later, not sure if it is true but i have not found anything to contradict it, that it was the first time he had ever done two encores. set list below. almost bruce-like length of concert. A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall Play Video Love Her With a Feelin' (Tampa Red cover) Play Video Mr. Tambourine Man Play Video I Threw It All Away Play Video Shelter From the Storm Play Video Love Minus Zero/No Limit Play Video Girl From the North Country Play Video Ballad of a Thin Man Play Video Maggie's Farm Play Video The Man in Me Play Video Like a Rolling Stone Play Video I Shall Be Released Play Video Going, Going, Gone Play Video One of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later) Play Video You're a Big Girl Now Play Video One More Cup of Coffee (Valley Below) Play Video Blowin' in the Wind Play Video I Want You Play Video Don't Think Twice, It's All Right Play Video Just Like a Woman Play Video Oh, Sister Play Video Simple Twist of Fate Play Video All Along the Watchtower Play Video I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met) Play Video All I Really Want to Do Play Video It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) Play Video Forever Young Play Video The Times They Are A-Changin' Play Video Knockin' on Heaven's Door
cigcars Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 13 hours ago, Akela3rd said: Favourite Dylan quote "hnrr, hnrr, grrru, yyee, hnrrrr (harmonica break) babe" Only joking - strange, out of the box choice and well deserved. *Anybody familiar with MTV's defunct series, "Celebrity Death Match", where they had claymation figures of every very famous celebrity in the world in a fight to the death with each other? One match was father and son day with Jerry and Ben Stiller vs. Bob and Jakob Dylan. At one point Ben Stiller knocks Jakob Dylan down, and outside the ropes waiting to tag for his turn Bob tells Jakob; "Haa hee, hunh hunh, hee hee, hahn hee, hun hun hee hanh ho!" And Jakob looks up from the ground and says, "Uh, that's a good idea, Dad!" 1
Ryan Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 Absolutely deserved. He has been an enormous influence on countless songwriters, as well as singers. I'm liking next week's New Yorker cover. Here is one of my favourite performances of Dylan ever, and a great song.
wabashcr Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 I certainly understand why Dylan the singer/performer isn't everyone's cup of tea. But his singing is completely beside the point of winning this award. Think of Dylan as a poet who happened to put a lot of his poetry to music, and also performed it that way for audiences. While he absolutely had lyrical influences, nobody before him was writing lyrics like he did. His songwriting completely changed the course of popular music, probably more so than anyone else in the last 100 years. I'm sure next year the Swedish academy can return to giving the award to an obscure author, if that's what people prefer. To me Dylan makes perfect sense. 3
Ken Gargett Posted October 14, 2016 Author Posted October 14, 2016 40 minutes ago, Ryan said: Absolutely deserved. He has been an enormous influence on countless songwriters, as well as singers. I'm liking next week's New Yorker cover. Here is one of my favourite performances of Dylan ever, and a great song. funny you show that one. one of my faves. i have had it on repeat all evening. planning to move to 'its alright ma, i'm only bleeding' tomorrow. the budokan version is magic. 1
Ken Gargett Posted October 14, 2016 Author Posted October 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, wabashcr said: I certainly understand why Dylan the singer/performer isn't everyone's cup of tea. But his singing is completely beside the point of winning this award. Think of Dylan as a poet who happened to put a lot of his poetry to music, and also performed it that way for audiences. While he absolutely had lyrical influences, nobody before him was writing lyrics like he did. His songwriting completely changed the course of popular music, probably more so than anyone else in the last 100 years. I'm sure next year the Swedish academy can return to giving the award to an obscure author, if that's what people prefer. To me Dylan makes perfect sense. we are absolutely in sync on this. 100% right. 1
DougB Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 I love the New Yorker cover!... If you read Dylan's lyrics as poems they are mind-bending, inspiring, fresh, new and paradigm-shattering. He is a true visionary and major influence on music and culture...On a side note, if it were not for him, the Beatles would have still been doing 'Love Me Do' until their end.
helix Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 Ramblin’ Jack Elliott was a huge influence on Dylan . “Jack sounds more like me than I do myself” (from the lips of WOODY GUTHRIE) – this was doubtless the highest of compliments, not in an egotistical sense, but in the sense of embodying a state of mind – folk pioneer Woody was his role model, and ELLIOTT a protégé to him, while new clone on the block (or Village) was a certain BOB DYLAN." Thought of as the son of Woody Guthrie and the father of Bob Dylan! Bob Dylan Quote: His tone of voice is sharp, focused and piercing. All that and he plays the guitar effortlessly in a fluid flat-picking perfected style. He was a brilliant entertainer…. Most folk musicians waited for you to come to them. Jack went out and grabbed you….. Jack was King of the Folksingers. Bob Dylan, Chronicles: Volume One
David88 Posted October 14, 2016 Posted October 14, 2016 I am personally not the biggest Dylan fan but I think this is well deserved. His ability as a song writer is profound and his back catalogue speaks for itself. He may be very hit and miss as a live performer these days but you can't fault his material. As far as the Irvine Welsh comment goes - I smell sour grapes! I enjoyed trainspotting but I didn't see it as a literary masterpiece. I hope he isn't turning into the next Jonathon Franzen, I'm surprised he hasn't come out with something to say yet.
canadianbeaver Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 When my oldest brother bought a Dylan album home and played it over and over in the late '60's we could not understand why the song went on forever without a 'love love love you" or whatever. We just kept waiting for it. Then we had to study the lyrics in religious school and in regular school many of his songs were in music class. Later, the Canadian legend The Band worked with him. Only recently, his most recent album where he plays differently, kind of mimicking new stuff, got dumped off my server. Oh well. Very pleased with this awarding and I think I get it. CB.
archosaur Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 Incidentally, snapped this pic of Bob performing last night here in California.His best performing days are well in the past, but I am a fan and feel the award is very well deserved. I'd prescribe his Greatest Hits Vol 2 for anyone that can't appreciate the lyrical contributions.They had a great rock and roll photography exhibit at the venue as well:Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk 1
Ken Gargett Posted October 16, 2016 Author Posted October 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, archosaur said: Incidentally, snapped this pic of Bob performing last night here in California. His best performing days are well in the past, but I am a fan and feel the award is very well deserved. I'd prescribe his Greatest Hits Vol 2 for anyone that can't appreciate the lyrical contributions. They had a great rock and roll photography exhibit at the venue as well: Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk so who is the guy with the cigar in the background stage pic?
archosaur Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 so who is the guy with the cigar in the background stage pic?There was just a rolling series of non-specific b/w footage from the 50s-60s behind Bob's performance. The cigar ending up in my pic was just dumb luck. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
Ken Gargett Posted October 16, 2016 Author Posted October 16, 2016 22 minutes ago, archosaur said: There was just a rolling series of non-specific b/w footage from the 50s-60s behind Bob's performance. The cigar ending up in my pic was just dumb luck. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk or nice timing. looks a bit like van morrison.
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