In Cubans we trust: five cigars to invest in right now

[Fugu]

Sorry for being a bit pedantic here, but this is apples and oranges. First, you are talking of a discointinued. Second, it is a Julieta No. 2 and not a Prominentes. There is a slightly different market for both, although they might appear similar. I am holding a stash of the go'ol' Churchill myself, 50 SLB as well as 25s. They have appreciated, yes, but my question would be, is that really more than compared to other "investements", such as e.g. LEs of Monte and Cohiba, certain low-quantity regionals, or Cohiba Classics, GRs and Rs etc.? I am really not sure, that's why I ask. From my knowledge of historical and current prices, aged DCs (non-discontinued) can be had for - comparatively - little money. I may be wrong, but you didn't provide an answer here, Jeremy.

[Jeremy Festa]

7 minutes ago, Fugu said:

Sorry for being a bit pedantic here, but this is apples and oranges. First, you are talking of a discointinued. Second, it is a Julieta No. 2 and not a Prominentes. There is a slightly different market for both, although they might appear similar. I am holding a stash of the go'ol' Churchill myself, 50 SLB as well as 25s. They have appreciated, yes, but my question would be, is that really more than compared to other "investements", such as e.g. LEs of Monte and Cohiba, certain low-quantity regionals, or Cohiba Classics, GRs and Rs etc.? I am really not sure, that's why I ask. From my knowledge of historical and current prices, aged DCs (non-discontinued) can be had for - comparatively - little money. I may be wrong, but you didn't provide an answer here, Jeremy.

Don't apologise mate. 

West said "for me."

And I was saying, "Yes" for me also. 

And "100%" because I thought you may have had the wrong impression, of someone else's opinion, and, personal preference. 

You are right however, in the fact that the market is niche for 50 cabs of DC's which are considerable investment to start with. 

But they are rare. So there is margin to be made. If one was that way inclined. 

And we both now know one certain individual who will buy them off us.

So, if you can get a 50cab, duty free, send it to me, West will buy it. And we will charge him a pretty penny.  

But basically, my post was really just to make fun of Westy, because Rob sent a photo of him giving me the finger and he is a bad person. 

[Fugu]

Haha ok, got that! 

[LordAnubis]

Best way to make a buck? Befriend a rich Arab or Nigerian, possibly an Asian.

It's not about what you sell. It's about how much someone else is willing to pay for it. Things sell at crazy prices because people can afford to buy them at that rate.

Step one: buy guants
Step two: pay cigar aficianado to publish an article how rare and good they are and have a pic of arnie smoking one.
Step three: .....
Step four: PROFIT


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[treberty]

Any cigar can be a great investment... I remember seeing a Chinese tourist at JR on 5th Ave 15 years ago buying at least 10 boxes of pre-embargo Cubans for $750 per box... My guy at JR gave me a couple to try: one of the biggest disapointments in my life: they were tasteless!

Those were cheap cigars back in the day - like 5 cent cigars or something like that... So the ROI 40 years or so later was pretty good!

Buy a truckload of Jose Piedra, age it for 50 years and you'll be a rich man - I am sure... But I agree with Ray: there will always be a market for REs, LEs, GRs, jars, limited edition/numbered humidors (which are not my cup of tea personally) and "classics".

I age my cigars only because I have accumulated many boxes over the years and do not have time to smoke them all - it's like forced saving :-)

I still have a Davidoff 80th anniversary that I may never smoke nor sell. Why? No idea, but to me a cigar collection is very personal and I would not sell it for a profit. Not my line of business I guess...

[MrGlass]

2 hours ago, Jeremy Festa said:

Being in Oz, I pay mad tax. So my opinion and experience on ROI varies to others (most) who buy duty/tax free.

This is the biggest issue I see with trying to make a profit from cigars as an individual in Australia.  With the ridiculous taxes we have to pay on the initial purchase, you'd be hard pressed to sell them internationally and see a profit even if they had increased in value.  

I still view them as an investment, but this is from the perspective that I'll have some stock of them that last beyond the point where I can no longer afford them.

[Dimmers]

reading that article made me ill!

[westg]

9 hours ago, Jeremy Festa said:

Don't apologise mate. 

West said "for me."

And I was saying, "Yes" for me also. 

And "100%" because I thought you may have had the wrong impression, of someone else's opinion, and, personal preference. 

You are right however, in the fact that the market is niche for 50 cabs of DC's which are considerable investment to start with. 

But they are rare. So there is margin to be made. If one was that way inclined. 

And we both now know one certain individual who will buy them off us.

So, if you can get a 50cab, duty free, send it to me, West will buy it. And we will charge him a pretty penny.  

But basically, my post was really just to make fun of Westy, because Rob sent a photo of him giving me the finger and he is a bad person. 

Clarified to perfection ...taken as a compliment ..cheers J.  50 cabs are going for around 2.5k in Aus at present....

[joeypots]

I don't invest in cigars. I buy to smoke and it is a passion for me. If I were to buy for speculation with an intention of selling in seven to ten years I would go with these. 

CORO

RASS

Esplendido

BCG

MC #2

These are cigars I own and enjoy. I think because these are very well known cigars that they could easily be sold after they are aged. 

As for cigars that have appreciated anecdotal evidence says that MC and Cohiba Sublimes have done well. 

It has occurred to me that I often regret selling cigars after I have had them for years, even if I made money.  It may be true that cigars will get me through times of no money better than money will get me through times of no cigars?

 

 

[helix]

On ‎10‎/‎7‎/‎2016 at 0:18 PM, joeypots said:

I don't invest in cigars. I buy to smoke and it is a passion for me. If I were to buy for speculation with an intention of selling in seven to ten years I would go with these. .  It may be true that cigars will get me through times of no money better than money will get me through times of no cigars?

 

 

Freewheelin Franklin smoked cigars too?

[Fumadoro]

This is just my quick reaction, but I don't think you could have gone wrong buying the following for investment purposes (though I hate the idea of using cigars for monetary gains in the secondary market).  

Diplomaticos Bushidos

Montecristo 80 Aniversario

All Behikes, especially OR

Quai d'Orsay Imperiales (stocks sold out almost immediately and I imagine in 4-5 years when the last of the production has reached "vintage" status we will start seeing them for premiums

Bolivar Gold Medals

 

[santela]

Well I haven't been into this hobby for long enough but I bought my first box of Cohiba Robusto for $300 in 2014. Now they are $420+. Still got another box in the OLH but really wish I bought more back then.

[noreaster]

Easy answer....Dantes 109... I know of a Mexican LCDH selling their last box for $3K....easily 5X the introductory price when they were released in '07..only going to go up in value...

[srbbones]

I just wondered:  How would the cost of the Cohiba Majestuosos compare to the price of gold?  I don't have the exact weight of this new cigar, but it looks like, by weight, it is about 1/3 the cost of gold.  I am skeptical that this would be a good long term investment.  Any thoughts?

[RickHendeson]

 

.Lol good thread revival

[Leopolis Semper Fidelis]

On 10/11/2016 at 3:47 PM, Fumadoro said:

Bolivar Gold Medals

If you mean the original BGM (not the later ersatz version), you'd be right - but I wouldn't sell mine.

[El Presidente]

30 minutes ago, Leopolis Semper Fidelis said:

If you mean the original BGM (not the later ersatz version), you'd be right - but I wouldn't sell mine.

2007 - 2011 still go either side of $390 USD. not a bad return at all. 

[Leopolis Semper Fidelis]

4 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

2007 - 2011 still go either side of $390 USD. not a bad return at all. 

Yes, there are those who would be prepared to pay that much (I certainly wouldn't!) - but the authentic version would fetch far more.

[hedgeybaby]

The one that immediately comes to mind is the Cohiba Robustos Supremos LE 2014. The price seems to be going North at a rapid clip.

[hedgeybaby]

5 minutes ago, hedgeybaby said:

The one that immediately comes to mind is the Cohiba Robustos Supremos LE 2014. The price seems to be going North at a rapid clip.

Didn't read the article before I posted. Thought I was being clever. 

[Akela3rd]

On the missed chances front, last year I was offered a Montecristo Seville Jar at a (legit) cigar shop in Barcelona for €300, the going rate at the time. A year and a half later they're €500+.
Bugger.

Thunder & Lightening '75 - '15