agulerer Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I found that I did only poll with a lot of numbers without any temperature. So ı started again. Please vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fugu Posted September 13, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2016 I could bet you received a PM from PigFish... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agulerer Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 Really he did not send me PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigFish Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I resisted and ignored the poll...! Sorry! I store at 60rH and 70F. Shhh.... (Its a secret!!!) -the Pig 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLC Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I resisted and ignored the poll...! Sorry! I store at 60rH and 70F. Shhh.... (Its a secret!!!) -the PigI cannot vote from my phone but setting are the same, 60rH and 70F give or take 1 from each. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agulerer Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 6 hours ago, LLC said: I cannot vote from my phone but setting are the same, 60rH and 70F give or take 1 from each. For cubans smd noncubans 60 rh at 70 F correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profmd Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Too low for me. I sit at 65% and 65F. Where I have cabinet in basement never seems to change from it. Never seem to ever have an issue, so I'll go with it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLC Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 For cubans smd noncubans 60 rh at 70 F correct?Only have Cubans but I hear NC's can be kept at a higher rH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stogieluver Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Only Cubans. 60rH @ 70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 'Go to' cigars - 62 rh @ 65°F Long-term rested cigars - 65 rh @ 65 °F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agulerer Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, JohnS said: 'Go to' cigars - 62 rh @ 65°F Long-term rested cigars - 65 rh @ 65 °F Why 62 rh @ 65 F? What is your experience with those values? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I have a simple setup, the temperature is around that figure...definitely less than 70°F. My experience has to do with my taste preferences. I would guess that I aim to have my cigars at around 9 to 12% moisture content, probably closer to 9%. For me, drier conditions (for Habanos cigars) can lead to more flavour and better smoke output with less draw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agulerer Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 28 minutes ago, JohnS said: I have a simple setup, the temperature is around that figure...definitely less than 70°F. My experience has to do with my taste preferences. I would guess that I aim to have my cigars at around 9 to 12% moisture content, probably closer to 9%. For me, drier conditions (for Habanos cigars) can lead to more flavour and better smoke output with less draw. I understood that you like it drier. I think drier taste gives more spice and more intense flavors. And wetter cigar gives more creamier and sweeter taste. What are your opinions about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, agulerer said: I understood that you like it drier. I think drier taste gives more spice and more intense flavors. And wetter cigar gives more creamier and sweeter taste. What are your opinions about this? My thoughts on this are that those varying flavours are dependant on blends and not necessarily storage conditions. I assure you, I am a stickler for creamy, sweeter profiled cigars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agulerer Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 8 minutes ago, JohnS said: My thoughts on this are that those varying flavours are dependant on blends and not necessarily storage conditions. I assure you, I am a stickler for creamy, sweeter profiled cigars. I think you tried higher rh. What was your experience at higher rh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Yes, I have tried higher rh. My experience is not out of the ordinary for members of this forum. In summary, it's better for Non-Cuban cigars, but because I live in a higher humidity area of the world, I've found that, at times, high ambient humidity, especially during warmer months, has meant that my Habanos cigars can draw moisture easily and become bitter and tarry to various degrees. Hence, one of the reasons why I favour a lower rh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agulerer Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 Is there cracking while squishing cigar at 60-63 rh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agulerer Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 Ok I am going with 65 rh formmy CC. But for Non Cc what is good? 67-69? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahDooRow Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 In my experience (and I've tried varying levels of temp and rH for CCs and NCs) NCs can be stored at the same rH as CCs. I store all of my cigars between 60 and 62 rH with temperature in the 66F-70F range. I used to keep my NCs around 68rH, but they smoke better and taste better when stored closer to 60rH. There's also no need to dry box when storage conditions are closer to 60rH. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agulerer Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 I tried 65 for Nicaraguans but it was strong. Is it because 65 rh or other thing? For people who choose higher humidity than cubans, why do you go with higher like 67-68 rh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladdraq Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 On September 12, 2016 at 10:32 PM, PigFish said: I resisted and ignored the poll...! Sorry! I store at 60rH and 70F. Shhh.... (Its a secret!!!) -the Pig Piggy hope everything is wonderfull in pig land! Question (sorry for the off topic) : Do you have a thread where i could ask some well intentioned smart ass questions? Thanks The Drac :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypots Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 On September 12, 2016 at 9:34 PM, agulerer said: I found that I did only poll with a lot of numbers without any temperature. So ı started again. Please vote I wouldn't know about NCs, so I can't vote as that field is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agulerer Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 1 minute ago, joeypots said: I wouldn't know about NCs, so I can't vote as that field is required. So you can write your rh% values here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurltim Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 4 hours ago, agulerer said: I tried 65 for Nicaraguans but it was strong. Is it because 65 rh or other thing? For people who choose higher humidity than cubans, why do you go with higher like 67-68 rh? IIRC, based on posts I have read through, the rH is all about getting the moisture content in the cigar to your liking. Some folks like them 60-62%,some folks wetter and some drier. To each their own. I believe the theory is that water dilutes the flavor but you do not want it so dry that your wrapper cracks and falls apart. If you think about it, that may be why your NC was too strong. You removed the water thereby concentrating the flavor. Makes sense to me. It's like reducing a sauce. You can experiment easily with dry boxing. I have tried it on the last two cigars I smoked and it had a dramatic impact on flavor and the burn. Run some experiments yourself and see what you like. You can store them at any rH that is feasible and then dry box to get it down where you like to smoke them. @Ethernut recommended dry boxing until the band slides a bit. That is a pretty good reference point to get started. There really isn't a magic number. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurltim Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 20 hours ago, MahDooRow said: In my experience (and I've tried varying levels of temp and rH for CCs and NCs) NCs can be stored at the same rH as CCs. I store all of my cigars between 60 and 62 rH with temperature in the 66F-70F range. I used to keep my NCs around 68rH, but they smoke better and taste better when stored closer to 60rH. There's also no need to dry box when storage conditions are closer to 60rH. I am working on getting my wineador down to 60-62% before I "release the hounds" from the desktop humidor stored in the wino. Once we turn the heat on for the winter, my temps will level out and stay near 70 deg. Right now I am between 64-65% rH and 62-66 deg F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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