stogieluver Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 So, my pansy ass brother in law (not really, but you'll understand) is going to visit us this weekend. He's a semi-experienced non Cuban cigar smoker. He doesn't smoke many cigars now because he says they make him sick to his stomach. Well, after questioning him, he feels that way after smoking non Cubans, and I suspect he is inhaling too much smoke and smoking too fast. I want to turn the tide and show him it doesn't have to be that way. I want to be careful in my offerings to him, so, which mild CC's would you recommend I offer up? 1
JohnS Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Have you got Hoyo de Monterrey, Quai D'Orsay, Rafael Gonzalez or El Rey del Mundo in your humidor? Or perhaps aged stock, but I would understand that offering an aged cigar may not be as appreciated as you'd like it to be.
Habana Mike Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Recent Vegueros Entretiempos - that'll put him off the cigars for good 2
CigarSeeker Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 I have some HDM Epi2 from a 2005 cab that are smoking like almond butter, literally ! HDM De Luxe smokes very smooth as well for me...and it's only 2014 box.
SloppyJ Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Recently got a box of HUPCs in the other day. It was a great light smoke. Seems like it would fit the bill.
airtrade Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Hoyo Palmas Extra, newbies and lightweights I know have enjoyed. Another friend who is a normal macanudo mild smoker enjoys a SLR Regios and the Serie A. 2
Stogieninja Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Q'dO Corona would be an excellent start. 1
garbandz Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Give him anything and watch him smoke it. Too fast, slow him down, inhaling, make him stop. A few hours later, give him the strongest thing you've got,see if he learned anything............ 4
PapaDisco Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Cigars making you sick is related to nicotine content not the strength of flavors. Seems to me that even the stouter CC's are still using tobacco that's old enough to not let that happen? At least that's been my experience. I would think that, just for safety's sake, anything with 5 years on it would be golden. The only time I got knocked on my can by nicotine was from a wee little Monte 4 of all things, so even the good stuff can have a green leaf slip through now and then!
PaulPower Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Qual D'Orsay was spicifially created for French tastes, and they prefer their cigars very mild. Many people complain that Quai are too mild, but they are good for introductions. But be mindful of the effects of vitamin N
Dimmers Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 +1 something in the HDM Epicure line, and also a choice not too young (say at least 18-24 months on the clock). Not overpowering in terms of strengh nor flavour, but excellent smokes in their own right.
stogieluver Posted September 2, 2016 Author Posted September 2, 2016 35 minutes ago, PapaDisco said: Cigars making you sick is related to nicotine content not the strength of flavors. Seems to me that even the stouter CC's are still using tobacco that's old enough to not let that happen? At least that's been my experience. I would think that, just for safety's sake, anything with 5 years on it would be golden. The only time I got knocked on my can by nicotine was from a wee little Monte 4 of all things, so even the good stuff can have a green leaf slip through now and then! I agree, Papa. I'm sure his main problem is he's inhaling. I'm going watch him smoke to make sure he doesn't do that nor smoke too fast. Thanks to all for the suggestions. I have a box of QdO Coronas Claro that have about three years age on them, and a box of SLR Regios. I think I'll start him out with the QdO. 1
NSXCIGAR Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 21 hours ago, SloppyJ said: Recently got a box of HUPCs in the other day. It was a great light smoke. Seems like it would fit the bill. I'm not sure I've heard anyone describe recent HUPCs that way...I'm halfway through a LUB MAY 14 box and these are medium to medium-full all day long. I'd have to throw out the HdM PE, Fonseca of course, and ERDM CS. I also think recent RyJ Chills are pretty mild as well. I actually think the QdO Coronas are approaching medium and the Imperiales are a bit milder.
BonVivant Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 San Cristobal de la Havava? before 2007, none mentioned above exist - just a thought
JZBdano Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Give him a Marlboro light (gold) if he inhales. He will be much better off with something filtered.
MrGlass Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 1 hour ago, NSXCIGAR said: I'm not sure I've heard anyone describe recent HUPCs that way...I'm halfway through a LUB MAY 14 box and these are medium to medium-full all day long. I had some HUPC's from 06 earlier this year (thanks again for organising the split @JohnS) and even at 10 years they still packed a punch. The QdO's should be a good start.
MIKA27 Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Trini Reyes is a good one also Punch Royal selection 12 is quite nice
gweilgi Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 I'd offer him something with a larger RG: a robusto is harder to smoke hot than a corona, IMO. As for marcas, I'd go with a SLR Regios. It has spice but is quite mild.
Sophistic Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 There is no way around Hoyo. QdO is on the same strength level but not the same quality imo. Trini can be well above medium, same with slr, they are both just mild-medium on flavor.
RijkdeGooier Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Mildest PL Montecarlo QdO Corona Monte Open
SloppyJ Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 9 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: I'm not sure I've heard anyone describe recent HUPCs that way...I'm halfway through a LUB MAY 14 box and these are medium to medium-full all day long. That's just my experience. Smoked it ROTT and it was extremely mild. More mild than the PLMC I had the day before.
agentdaffy007 Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 Mildest cigar has to go to aged El Rey Del Mundo - Choix Supreme. Runner-up is Trinidad - Robusto Extra
Smallclub Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 14 hours ago, PaulPower said: Qual D'Orsay was spicifially created for French tastes, and they prefer their cigars very mild. This is simply not true. Urban legend. The best selling habano in France is the Partagas D4, talk about a mild cigar… Quai d'Orsay was created with the idea of a refined blend (and a specific type of wrapper), not specifically a "mild" blend. I have already posted the story of the marca, and Guy as well… I'll try to find these older threads… As for the OP's question: Fonseca N°1, Hoyo Palmas Extra, Quintro Favoritos, Sancho Panza belicoso, Choix Suprême… 2
PaulPower Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Smallclub said: This is simply not true. Urban legend. The best selling habano in France is the Partagas D4, talk about a mild cigar… Quai d'Orsay was created with the idea of a refined blend (and a specific type of wrapper), not specifically a "mild" blend. I have already posted the story of the marca, and Guy as well… I'll try to find these older threads… As for the OP's question: Fonseca N°1, Hoyo Palmas Extra, Quintro Favoritos, Sancho Panza belicoso, Choix Suprême… I must respectfully disagree, at least in part. Per http://www.habanos.com/en/marcas/quaidorsay/ "All Quai d’Orsay sizes are made with a light tasting blend of filler and binder leaves." I agree that the French do not only like mild cigars. But enough Frenchmen enjoy a "light tasting" cigar for Habanos to create a mild marca for France. "Refined" is a rather nebulous marketing term.
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