Lamar Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I recently received a Montecristo Edmundo Jar from a reputable source. I don't have too much experience with jars, but the few I have were inconsistent in their labeling/seals/markings. For example, I got a San Cristobal Torreon from FOH last year; The box had a warranty seal holding on the top, and the underside of the top of the box was stamped with a factory and date code just like a standard CC box. The Edmundo Jar's box had no warranty seal, and no date/factory code under the top. The bottom of the jar does have the Byron logo/seal, which is the correct current jar manufacturer. The Torreon oddly did not have this logo on the bottom. There is very little info on the Edmundo jars, but from what I have read they were released in 2010. I'm not sure if that means they were only produced in 2010, but one thing I noted was that the Edmundos have the newer style white glossy embossed bands, so I assume the cigars are more recent. Also all the pictures I've seen of the Edmundo Jar box lack the warranty seal. Anyone knowledgeable with jars in general or the Edmundo jar specifically care to weigh in. Are these inconsistencies common with jars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnyc Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 If I remember right the jars were sold empty like the Cohiba sig vi jar and you bought a box to fill them, I could be wrong though as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusguy Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 If I remember right the jars were sold empty like the Cohiba sig vi jar and you bought a box to fill them, I could be wrong though as well.Incorrect. They were sold filled. They have no box codes or warranty seal. The jar of the OP looks legit and is just like the one I bought in Germany. There should be a German tax seal over the lid and rim of the jar with the German price on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamar Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 The Siglo VI jar comes with 25 cigars. It was a 2010 release in Germany and Switzerland. I've never seen a recent jar sold by habanos SA without cigars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rckymtn22 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 They are sold empty too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusguy Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 They are sold empty tooNot at LCDH Germany - at least not back in 2010.Edit: same for the RyJ Short Churchill jar, the Upmann 46 jar, and the Siglo VI jar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olga Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 The ones I came across (monte, upmann, romeo) were always full. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamar Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 Incorrect. They were sold filled. They have no box codes or warranty seal. The jar of the OP looks legit and is just like the one I bought in Germany. There should be a German tax seal over the lid and rim of the jar with the German price on it. Did yours have a date and factory code? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliverdst Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I think always full too. Empty ones made in china? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion21 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 My Torreon jar had the stickers and the date/factory code on the underside of the boxes lid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olga Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I think always full too. Empty ones made in china? I think Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainQuintero Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I've only ever seen full ones for sale through retailers, but that's not too say you can't buy them empty new. It's nothing I've seen or heard before though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamar Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 Yea I've got a Torreon as well, I'm wondering if other jars may or may not have it. My Torreon jar had the stickers and the date/factory code on the underside of the boxes lid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliverdst Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I could find Monte and RyJ jars online. I think they are not the same ones that were released in 2010. Maybe a copy. They look the same but I don't know about the sealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avaldes Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I have to agree that I have never seen an empty jar for sale from Habanos. They are in the business of selling cigars. I think most accessories, even with Habanos branding comes from the cigar stores or other places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semifan1 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 All the ones I picked up in Spain were full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamar Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 Sorry, the original question had nothing to do with empty jars! I don't know why that was mentioned. I think everyone agrees jars come full. The question is whether anyone has received jars without seal and date/factory code on the box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusguy Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Did yours have a date and factory code? No, as I said in my original reply before the discussion about empty or full started. These older jars have no BD or factory codes. Torreon and newer Noellas have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CigarmanTim Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I bought my Monte Edmundo jar in Jan of 2013. Neither the jar nor the box had dates or factory codes. I purchased it at LCDH in Grand Cayman's and carried it out. Due to the reputation of the owner of this LCDH, I do not question the authenticity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamar Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 Thats great info, thanks, this is exactly what I wanted to verify. Interesting that some jars come with the dates/factory codes and a seal on the box and some don't. I did a lot of searching and really couldn't find much info about this on any forum or even on cubancigarwebsite.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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