Air Filter/Ozone for Indoor Smoke Removal?

[superconductor71]

I know there have been a few topics that have discussed indoor smoking arrangements and filters have been brushed upon but I wanted to re-visit this.

Thoughts and recommendations for the best way to rid rooms of cigar smoke?

I have read how great the RabbitAir unit works by CA and other outlets, and then some tests have been less than impressive. My B&M shop actually had one in for a time and was not impressed with how it worked. It's pricey to say the least.....but if it really works it might be worth it.

Then there are the Ozone generators such as AirZone. From all accounts they absolutely destroy odors and mold....they are hardcore and work. The problem with some of them, and this is where I need recommendations and an education a bit, is that depending upon how these generators are used, these generators can be bad for you. Some units are only meant to be used when people, pets and plants are out of the house. Some units, like the aforementioned AirZone residential products *claim* that they are safe to use while a room is inhabited. How true is this?

Thoughts? What works for you?

[irratebass]

This is what I use for the man cave (garage)....it works, but not as quick as I had hoped. The room still gets smokey, but not as bad as before. I will turn it on as I am smoking, then leave it on all night and turn it off in the morning there is no trace of smoke at all....so for what it's worth I am happy with the purchase, and it works for my wintertime smoking where I can leave the garage door closed, and wifey won't complain.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FGNTYE?refRID=TQHHYZX4CCG8H7S28XPF&ref_=pd_bia_nav_t_2

The only drawback is the smell, it's not bad, but it can leave you lightheaded. I place it across the room from where I smoke and it's not as bad.

[superconductor71]

This is what I use for the man cave (garage)....it works, but not as quick as I had hoped. The room still gets smokey, but not as bad as before. I will turn it on as I am smoking, then leave it on all night and turn it off in the morning there is no trace of smoke at all....so for what it's worth I am happy with the purchase, and it works for my wintertime smoking where I can leave the garage door closed, and wifey won't complain.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FGNTYE?refRID=TQHHYZX4CCG8H7S28XPF&ref_=pd_bia_nav_t_2

The only drawback is the smell, it's not bad, but it can leave you lightheaded. I place it across the room from where I smoke and it's not as bad.

Yes, I've read about that one.....It's a big time ozone generator and the instructions state you're not supposed to use at all while people are in the house, that it can be harmful to people and pets. It DOES work great though....it will absolutely clean up the smell I hear. But supposedly all that ozone while people are in the house it will cause headaches and some say cause lung issues.

I'd use it while we were away at work, but I have a dog inside all day.....

For a garage, like you use it for, it probably works great. But this would be down in my man cave...in the house, so not so sure it will work for me.

[ElPuro]

Do not use any 03 generators while in the room. They are not a filtration system.

[WhiteMamba]

This explains a lot about why Mickey is the way he is.

[Orion21]

Whatever the casinos in Vegas use to "purify" their smoking rooms is what works. When I go to the Venetian and request a smoking suite you never smell any smoke when you walk inside. I would love to know what they use to get rid of the smell. I was told it's an Ozone unit, but not sure.

The last time we were there we had requested a smoking suite so we could enjoy cigars, but none was available upon check in. They gave us a non smoking room and allowed us to smoke our cigars. The manager said not to worry about the smell. Now I wouldn't recommend a non-smoking room to smoke cigars because the ventilation was so bad my suitcase reeked for a month, but whatever system the casinos use is the real deal.

[Souperchi]

I use the same unit mentioned above but i don't turn on the ozone while I'm in the room. When I leave I crank it up and open a window a hair. Within an hour or so most of the smell is gone.

[PapaDisco]

If you want to emphasize exhaust instead of filtration, is there a guide somewhere that lists an appropriate CFM based on room size and number of people?

[Orion21]

I did some digging and found a company called SecureAire. I can't find pricing on their systems, but they have a unit that is 36" by 22". Seems like it would require a big room, but would move a lot of air quickly.

[ElPuro]

There are cheaper ionizers on ebay. More industrial looking but perform well. Here is what i have. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=161042404876&alt=web

[jackrestivo]

Take it from someone who really got messed up with an ozone generator. They really do a good job removing odors but I believe that you should NOT be in the room while they are operating. I have a separate pool house that I would go to smoke and wanted to keep the air clean. I was new to cigar smoking at the time and had really only been smoking for about 6 months when I got my 1st Rocky Mountain air purifier. The area that I was using it in was a pretty good size room with 2 levels. Approximately 1800sq feet. In an attempt to really make this a haven for a good stogie, I asked the company about best placement for the unit. 1st level or 2nd level. I was told that for best results, and the size of the area, having one on each level would optimize what I was trying to do. These particular units have settings for room size based on square footage and on the highest setting they can handle a 2500 sq ft. Room. I was also unaware at the time that you really shouldn't be in the room while they are in the ozone mode. I was thinking that these units were more like a filter set up rather than something that actually does something to the room air. I would sit in the room while having a cigar and have two units running at higher levels also in the ozone mode. End results were major health issues. I think I ended up going through every major test possible and thought I was on a death bed. I was pretty messed up for more than a year and still have mucus membrane problems with my throat and mouth. I'm still doing different types of alternative medicine and supplements to get myself back. I don't think I will ever be back to where I was before I started using the 2 ozone generators. When I talked to the manufacturer about what I felt had happened, of course they are going to deny anything. I guess I really should have been a little more careful and known more about them before I used them the way I was using them. In conclusion I DO recommend them for removing odors, for sure. But DO NOT stay in the room while they are running. This unit even has an auto/timer that can be set when leaving a room and turn off automatically while no one is in the room. I also recommend bringing fresh air into the room after they are used. Also the settings that are used based on the room square footage should be followed. The unit I had did say that you can run on low and stay in the room but after what I went through and the after the effects that I"m still going through, I wouldn't chance it. I went over a year without a stogie and only just started having a couple a week this past summer. I can't enjoy them the way I use to but keeping the faith that things will somehow keep getting better.

[ElPuro]

Beware also that o3 can affect pigments in carpets, couches and other fabrics.

[jfire]

Beware also that o3 can affect pigments in carpets, couches and other fabrics.

It's also is known to corrode electrical outlets. And anything else with copper, solder joints etc.

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