Popular Post Ken Gargett Posted November 26, 2015 Popular Post Posted November 26, 2015 apparently there was an ask jerry session on radio or wherever. it went, as they say, about as well as could be expected. some of the questions tweeted in... #AskJerryJones if you could go back in time and murder baby Hitler, would you do it or sign him as a defensive back? Rae Carruth is expected to be released from prision in 2018. With a need at WR, will you be interested in signing him? #askjerryjones Which prisons do you plan on visiting in the off-season looking for new players? #AskJerryJones You seem to be slightly depleted at the Running back position. Do you have Oscar Pistorius's number? #AskJerryJones Did you sign Greg Hardy because the Cowboys never beat anybody? #askjerryjones Is there any crime a football player could commit that would actually stop you from signing him? #askjerryjones Who would you want to see in a Cowboys uniform more Jeffery Dahmer or William Gacy? #AskJerryJones Will you make Bill Cosby the new cheerleading coach? #AskJerryJones If Vick beat women instead of dogs, how quickly would you have signed him? #AskJerryJones 5
skalls Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Love it. But to be fair to Jerry, every owner is willing to hire people who would be unhirable under normal situatiosn. Which is stupid and sad. But that's the NFL for ya.
Shrody234 Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 That's hilarious! The first comment is the best
Ken Gargett Posted November 26, 2015 Author Posted November 26, 2015 #WhoIsJerryJones ??? i loved the oscar P one. J, jerry jones is the owner/GM of the dallas cowgirls. and as such is hated by all right thinking, decent humans on the planet (actually, he is the one person associated with dallas i really don't mind because having him around does give other sides a better chance to beat them). and yes, there is a fair bit of log-in-your-own-eye with this as dan synder may not be the ultimate pin-up when it comes to team owners. 2
JohnS Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Hey Jerry Jones...How come Steve O'Keefe was released from the Australian Test squad for the 3rd Test in Adelaide against New Zealand and not Shaun Marsh? 1
BurnsNZ Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Yep always nice to see when things blow up in the Cowboys face. Although I am not sure what else they were expecting with the Hardy signing!
Ken Gargett Posted November 26, 2015 Author Posted November 26, 2015 Yep always nice to see when things blow up in the Cowboys face. Although I am not sure what else they were expecting with the Hardy signing! you know it is a seriously "questionable" signing if the skins won't touch it.
stunod Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 I'm a lifelong Giants fan and I don't need any reason to despise the Cowboys anymore, but this guy is a buffoon. This idiot would sign anyone to win. Here is the sad truth, if anyone on your list in jail or not, was an upgrade to his current players, he would sign them.
Fosgate Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Should be no surprise anymore for the conduct of payers on teams across the NFL, (Vikings, Adrian Peterson) (Ravens, Ray Rice), (Bears, Sam Hurd) and then just dirty players like Detroits, Suh. (oh and Rams WR Baily was shot just last night). I would more suspect the other teams are jealous. 1
mash Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 i loved the oscar P one. J, jerry jones is the owner/GM of the dallas cowgirls. and as such is hated by all right thinking, decent humans on the planet (actually, he is the one person associated with dallas i really don't mind because having him around does give other sides a better chance to beat them). and yes, there is a fair bit of log-in-your-own-eye with this as dan synder may not be the ultimate pin-up when it comes to team owners. He's also hated because he had this bad habit of going down to the sidelines towards the end of the game and pacing/interfering. No wonder he couldn't hire people like Bill Parcells to coach for him. Owners should pay the bills and stay out of the way. That's why you hire a GM.
Dozerhead Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Love it. But to be fair to Jerry, every owner is willing to hire people who would be unhirable under normal situatiosn. Which is stupid and sad. But that's the NFL for ya. There is truth to this, but in my opinion, he crossed a major line by signing Hardy. 1
MrGTO Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 There is truth to this, but in my opinion, he crossed a major line by signing Hardy. Come on, they have been crossing those lines for years. Hardy is small time to what they have signed in the past.
Colt45 Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 I've no comment on Jones other than he is what he is. But I've been thinking about this for a bit, and it's not directly related to Hardy and Dallas - do members feel a person should lose their job ( possibly not be hired as well ) due to something that happens outside of work? Domestic altercation ( and please, I'm not making light ), driving under the influence, spending time in prison, etc.......
Ken Gargett Posted November 26, 2015 Author Posted November 26, 2015 I've no comment on Jones other than he is what he is. But I've been thinking about this for a bit, and it's not directly related to Hardy and Dallas - do members feel a person should lose their job ( possibly not be hired as well ) due to something that happens outside of work? Domestic altercation ( and please, I'm not making light ), driving under the influence, spending time in prison, etc....... i know a lot of wine companies will sack anyone going under the influence. suspect it depends a bit what the job is and the offence. if it is seen to reflect on the organisation, there might be a case.
El Presidente Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 I've no comment on Jones other than he is what he is. But I've been thinking about this for a bit, and it's not directly related to Hardy and Dallas - do members feel a person should lose their job ( possibly not be hired as well ) due to something that happens outside of work? Domestic altercation ( and please, I'm not making light ), driving under the influence, spending time in prison, etc....... In any work environment as CEO/Owner, a large part of your responsibility is to build a team culture. That culture includes many core values but respect (to one another in the team) is a key one. Few people in this world have a clean sheet. We are human afterall. However, prior issues such as domestic vioilence, assault, theft etc is something I would not want to introduce into the team. Outside of that it is a case by case basis. 2
Ken Gargett Posted November 26, 2015 Author Posted November 26, 2015 In any work environment as CEO/Owner, a large part of your responsibility is to build a team culture. That culture includes many core values but respect (to one another in the team) is a key one. Few people in this world have a clean sheet. We are human afterall. However, prior issues such as domestic vioilence, assault, theft etc is something I would not want to introduce into the team. Outside of that it is a case by case basis. then again, D doesn't have to face eli manning twice a year.
Dozerhead Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Come on, they have been crossing those lines for years. Hardy is small time to what they have signed in the past. Well, yeah, they've been doing it for years, Pacman Jones and Tank Johnson, to name a couple. Hardy is the worst of the worst, who belongs in prison right now. If not for a stupid arcane Carolina law, that is where he would be.
Ken Gargett Posted November 26, 2015 Author Posted November 26, 2015 Well, yeah, they've been doing it for years, Pacman Jones and Tank Johnson, to name a couple. Hardy is the worst of the worst, who belongs in prison right now. If not for a stupid arcane Carolina law, that is where he would be. for the NRL comp here, the NRL itself, the body which effectively rules the game, would soon say who was or who was not eligible. so in hardy's case, they may say, right, you are out for two years. that takes it from the clubs. i know there is something similar in the NFL but i think this goes further and takes it away from the clubs. which is a better way of doing it, i think.
PaulP Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 Sporting News ranked Jones as the worst of the 32 general managers in the NFL: “an ongoing disaster that has doomed America’s most valuable franchise to mediocrity.” As owner, Jones has every right to be the Cowboys’ general manager. But it hasn’t worked for 18 years. That’s a sad thing, both for Dallas fans and for Jones himself. Jones bought the Cowboys in 1989 and installed Jimmy Johnson, his former teammate from the University of Arkansas football team, as head coach. Johnson built the Cowboys from a 1-15 record to a pair of Super Bowl wins in 1993 and 1994. At which point Jones, upset that Johnson was getting too much credit, told the press that anyone could have coached the Cowboys to those Super Bowl wins. Jones then fired Johnson and named himself general manager. After a 1996 Super Bowl win under Coach Barry Switzer, the Cowboys fell into mediocrity. They’ve stayed there. Forbes
stogieluver Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 Karma is a *****. They're getting what they deserve. Go Giants and Saints!
PapaDisco Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 Love it. But to be fair to Jerry, every owner is willing to hire people who would be unhirable under normal situatiosn. Which is stupid and sad. But that's the NFL for ya. True now, but there once was a time when the NFL would have shunned those 'bad as I wanna be' types. The league felt it was incumbent upon them to set a positive example (at least publicly, there was still plenty of private antics but as long as it stayed private that was o.k.).
wabashcr Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 for the NRL comp here, the NRL itself, the body which effectively rules the game, would soon say who was or who was not eligible. so in hardy's case, they may say, right, you are out for two years. that takes it from the clubs. i know there is something similar in the NFL but i think this goes further and takes it away from the clubs. which is a better way of doing it, i think. The problem is that player discipline is collectively bargained with the players' union. In Hardy's case, the league initially suspended him for the first 10 games of this season (a pretty severe penalty by NFL standards). The suspension was reduced to just 4 games by an arbitrator, for reasons mostly owing to the collective bargaining agreement. The CBA allows the commissioner to unilaterally impose discipline to protect "the integrity of the game." But as we saw with deflategate, discipline can be appealed first to arbitration, and then to federal courts, where the league generally loses (as of late). The owners and the league would love to be able to just outright ban these clowns. Jerry Jones probably would prefer to never hear Greg Hardy's name ever again. There is no shortage of labor in the NFL, and nobody is worth the negative publicity. But they can't legally ban these guys, and they don't have the stomach to collude to blackball players with value. So Jerry figures if he doesn't sign this guy, someone else will. Of course he's right. He gets a guy who produces on a team/cap friendly contract. As LBJ said of Hoover, it's better to have him inside your tent pissing out, than outside pissing in.
Ken Gargett Posted November 30, 2015 Author Posted November 30, 2015 The problem is that player discipline is collectively bargained with the players' union. In Hardy's case, the league initially suspended him for the first 10 games of this season (a pretty severe penalty by NFL standards). The suspension was reduced to just 4 games by an arbitrator, for reasons mostly owing to the collective bargaining agreement. The CBA allows the commissioner to unilaterally impose discipline to protect "the integrity of the game." But as we saw with deflategate, discipline can be appealed first to arbitration, and then to federal courts, where the league generally loses (as of late). The owners and the league would love to be able to just outright ban these clowns. Jerry Jones probably would prefer to never hear Greg Hardy's name ever again. There is no shortage of labor in the NFL, and nobody is worth the negative publicity. But they can't legally ban these guys, and they don't have the stomach to collude to blackball players with value. So Jerry figures if he doesn't sign this guy, someone else will. Of course he's right. He gets a guy who produces on a team/cap friendly contract. As LBJ said of Hoover, it's better to have him inside your tent pissing out, than outside pissing in. understand. what will be really interesting is that i understand hardy is a free agent end of the season. does jerry grab him again?
wabashcr Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 understand. what will be really interesting is that i understand hardy is a free agent end of the season. does jerry grab him again? He's said on more than one occasion that he'd like to offer Hardy a contract extension. That was earlier in the season, and he's cut back a bit on his public support for Hardy in recent weeks. Hardy continues to do and say things that put a negative spotlight on the Cowboys, and Jerry's patience seems to be wearing a bit thin. If Hardy can keep his mouth shut and avoid any more negative attention for the remainder of this season (which is all but over for Dallas now), I think Jerry will pay him an obscene amount of money.
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