Stugotts95 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Hi all, Hoping to get your thoughts on a box of Monte No.2s I bought recently. The microprint on the seal indicates a different serial number than the one just under the bar code. Also, when I enter the number (the one under the bar code) into the Habanos verification site, it comes up as a genuine box of RyJ short churchills! Lastly, the stamp on the bottom seems suspect. The factory code is LLN, which I believe is the code for the H. Upmann factory. To my knowledge, that factory isn't one where Monte No. 2s are manufactured. Lastly, although you can clearly make out the month, the year is illegible. The cigars themselves look spot on though (i.e. the band, quality of wrapper, etc.), so I'm stumped. Not only that, but I thought the micro print on the seal is supposed to be a 'guarantee" of authenticity. Any thoughts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Welcome to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Nice first post. Normally it is polite to introduce one's self to the forum before asking for assistance. Might I suggest you start here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfain Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Seriously, how about taking the effort to provide some pictures? Those provide a thousand words. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallclub Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 The factory code is LLN, which I believe is the code for the H. Upmann factory. To my knowledge, that factory isn't one where Monte No. 2s are manufactured. Good one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordAnubis Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Some dubious things you got going on there. If you purchase from a reliable source (and do NOT mention on here who your source was) then you don't need to ever worry, or even look for these things. I've never even looked for a serial code, i trust whom i buy from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stugotts95 Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stugotts95 Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Ok. My apologies for not following protocol, but honestly, grow up. With that said: Hello friends! Allow me to introduce myself. You can call me Nash, and I live in the Boston area. I'm new to the "forum thing" but not cigars. I look forward to learning from everyone and hope that I can pay it forward. Best......(even to the ****** bag with the Jester emoji) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stugotts95 Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Good one What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stugotts95 Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Some dubious things you got going on there. If you purchase from a reliable source (and do NOT mention on here who your source was) then you don't need to ever worry, or even look for these things. I've never even looked for a serial code, i trust whom i buy from. Found out about microprint here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stugotts95 Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Seriously, how about taking the effort to provide some pictures? Those provide a thousand words. Will do... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallclub Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 What do you mean?. I simply mean that the Upmann factory is sometimes named the Montecristo factory for some reason, it was the casa matriz (the "mother house") for Montecristo for years, and I'd add that's common knowledge, hence my " " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor2118 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Found out about microprint here: You might like to look at the site where this data was obtained from. Seals: http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/info-packaging.aspx#Union_and_Warranty_Seals Factories: http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/info-production.aspx#Factories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 You might like to look at the site where this data was obtained from. Seals: http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/info-packaging.aspx#Union_and_Warranty_Seals Factories: http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/info-production.aspx#Factories Amusing that when he goes to check the serial number in the vid, your website is already open in his browser! I wonder if he ever mentioned and give credit in any of the vids where he sourced all that anti-counterfeiting info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habana Mike Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Amusing that when he goes to check the serial number in the vid, your website is already open in his browser! I wonder if he ever mentioned and give credit in any of the vids where he sourced all that anti-counterfeiting info? Joe actually does give credit to CCW at 7:06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stugotts95 Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share Posted November 5, 2015 See pics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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