El Presidente Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 This is an interesting article on how the owner of Gurkha sees positioning in the market. I did have a chuckle http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2015/11/02/gurkha-cigars-cut-above-rest/
BuckeyeSmoker Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 I havent been around the cigar world long, but there was nothing high end in 1990? Again im ignorant, but he makes it sound like cigars were invented by them in the early 90s which seems...false
Colt45 Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 There was an interesting interview with Hansotia in the October issue of Cigar Aficionado. Like him or loathe him, he's a shrewd businessman. Some years back, Habanos declared that going forward, Cuban cigars would be considered and marketed as luxury items (sorry, off the top of my head I can't remember who made the statement). For me, little difference between the two...... A little P.S. the original Behike Humidor - rolled by one roller, special humidor presentation, hand written bands...... yada. yada. yada. Pinky out collector special.... Seriously - what's the diff?
NSXCIGAR Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 I havent been around the cigar world long, but there was nothing high end in 1990? Again im ignorant, but he makes it sound like cigars were invented by them in the early 90s which seems...false In the NC world they basically do believe that they invented premium cigars in the late 80s for all intents and purposes, or at least that they're responsible for their "rebirth" after the Cuban Revolution. Delusions of grandeur indeed. And of course they believe that NCs are now totally superior to CCs always and everywhere. Interesting how the article never mentions actual tobacco even once, or why or how these cigars are superior to even, say, a Dutch Masters. I guess price and rarity alone dictate a cigar's quality. I'd kind of like to know what kind of tobacco is 100 times more expensive than all the rest and how Gurkha came to possess it. Apparently there was a demand for a $5,000 cigar and this guy found it and met it so good on him. However I can't imagine the buffoons that buy them but someone is. Is nobody asking what the hell kind of tobacco justifies a $5,000 cigar? Hasn't it occurred to any one of these "billionaires" (presumably successful and/or intelligent) they're getting taken for a ride? Jesus, I need to get into the ultra high-end cigar biz immediately.
AlohaStyle Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 I can't stand reading the crap/fake PR articles his company pumps out. But I guess they can be good for a laugh... this is one of the better ones from that article: “We have our ultra-premium buyers, which are collectors, the super affluent, if you are a millionaire, you smoke Davidoff, if you are a billionaire, you smoke Gurkha." 4
NSXCIGAR Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 Now that I read that article again it was really nothing but a big advertisement page! Kind of missed that the first time. What a joke. When you read it with that in mind as it masquerades as an actual article on the guy or product it's hilarious. I hope Fox Business got paid for that advertising space...
BuckeyeSmoker Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 Now that I read that article again it was really nothing but a big advertisement page! Kind of missed that the first time. What a joke. When you read it with that in mind as it masquerades as an actual article on the guy or product it's hilarious. I hope Fox Business got paid for that advertising space... I was thinking the same thing. Seems like this was an ad disguised as an article.
perkinke Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 It wasn't an article about cigars, it was an article about the business side of cigars. It's from fox "business," why would they go into the quality of their cigars when the primary thrust of the article is market positioning and sales? And to be honest, you have to given them the nod on their packaging, it is unique and easily identifiable. There are lots of products that are really crap but have taken a toe-hold with status-driven consumers, 1970's to 2000's corvette comes to mind.
ThatAlfonso Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 I havent been around the cigar world long, but there was nothing high end in 1990? Again im ignorant, but he makes it sound like cigars were invented by them in the early 90s which seems...false I think the lack of availability or CCs in the US has caused the NC community, even though born out of the CC community, to treat the US market as a separate and new market. The cigar boom in the early 90s caused an explosion in the number of new lines offered from each brand. I remember LGC coming out with their Serie R cigars which were "premium" at the time. They are now very modestly priced and have been replaced with increasingly "premium" products. You are right, they definitely didn't create the market. Just took advantage of increased attention, demand and naivety of buyers that fell in their lap. 1
CdnLimitada Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 You have to admit, the guy has no confidence issues. 30-40,000/box? Who the hell does that? By far, the worst cigars I know of. 1
foursite12 Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 Fox's ultra-conservative agenda thinly disguised. Follow the link in the article for more bile. 1
Habana Mike Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 I like this quote: “We sell out of every single one of our products,” stresses Hansotia. “It is never an issue for us." Most for pennies on the dollar.....
msm1771 Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 This is an interesting article on how the owner of Gurkha sees positioning in the market. I did have a chuckle http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2015/11/02/gurkha-cigars-cut-above-rest/ I would credit Juan Lopez for Gurkhas success he has truly turned around the company. I see him all the time super funny guy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
msm1771 Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 I can't stand reading the crap/fake PR articles his company pumps out. But I guess they can be good for a laugh... this is one of the better ones from that article: “We have our ultra-premium buyers, which are collectors, the super affluent, if you are a millionaire, you smoke Davidoff, if you are a billionaire, you smoke Gurkha." And if your a trillionaire you smoke acids Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
hjmclain22 Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 Ha this quote was pretty funny too "You could buy a Ferrari before you could buy one of our boxes.” 1
NSXCIGAR Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 Everyone (here) knows that the tobacco in these $5,000 cigars ain't no different than the $5 cigars so there's almost no risk in calling them "unique" and attempting to sell them for enormous sums. Maybe the tobacco is aged and/or processed a bit differently. Big deal. And If they don't sell you've maybe lost the $50 in increased tobacco processing and higher packaging costs. It just amazes me that no one is talking about the tobacco itself. To me it would be the most obvious question. If 1% of Gurkha's products sold for 500-1000 times more than the other 99% I'd want to know what the hell for. So would every tobacco producer on earth. The whole thing just screams snake oil...and these apparent billionaire buffoons are buying it. Wealthy Asian businessmen considering Gurkha the pinnacle of class and affluence? Please. I'm sorry but I'm not buying this nonsense. Let everyone else show up with their Gurkhas and I'll show up with my 1492 or Dunhill Cabinetta which I can apparently get cheaper than these Gurkhas and we'll see about class.
NSXCIGAR Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 I would credit Juan Lopez for Gurkhas success he has truly turned around the company. I see him all the time super funny guy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk What's really funny is that I'd rather smoke a Juan Lopez than a $5,000 Gurkha! As I said, I hold nothing against these guys at all. They found a niche and are exploiting it. They obviously have some good PR, some good presentation and confidence. They've managed to manufacture the illusion of exclusivity. Good on them. I take issue with anyone who spends more than $5 on any Gurkha cigar and believes this horse poop. 2
msm1771 Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 What's really funny is that I'd rather smoke a Juan Lopez than a $5,000 Gurkha! As I said, I hold nothing against these guys at all. They found a niche and are exploiting it. They obviously have some good PR, some good presentation and confidence. They've managed to manufacture the illusion of exclusivity. Good on them. I take issue with anyone who spends more than $5 on any Gurkha cigar and believes this horse poop. Wrong Juan Lopez haha. I agree with you, but also think that people who are too lazy to do some basic research on a product deserve to be taken advantage of. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Lasabar Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 I just threw up in my mouth a little... Ahhhhhh! So you are experiencing the Ghurkha black master elite tubos series cigar! Very rare, very special! 1
polarbear Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 Ahhhhhh! So you are experiencing the Ghurkha black master elite tubos series cigar! Very rare, very special! only $45K a box Will prob be worth $100K in a year or two Seriously though, what a load of horse ****!
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