JohnS Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 The change of RG doesn't change the fact that a Laguito Especiale is still a long/grang panatela, and certainly not a lonsdale. There's something common to the 3 "classic" lonsdale sizes (cervantes, dalia, cazadore) that a Laguito Especiale doesn't have. (smoking time to begin with, but evolution over time as well) Come on, it's 27 mm longer than a cervantes, 30mm longer than a cazadore, it's a completely different smoking experience. Practically speaking, this is very true. A cigar that is 192 mm long needs to be smoked slowly to be appreciated and not burn 'hot' and become tarry/bitter. A 42 rg x 165 mm Lonsdale perhaps is a little more forgiving. In my mind too, this is the vitola I relate to when I think of a Lonsdale. Fight!!! No?? Haha...save it for Rugby! No, I respect Frank's experience and knowledge and welcome his opinion on these matters so that our community can benefit from a wider knowledge. In relation to the naming of cigars, there is no common consensus, of course. In different parts of the world we have different names for cigars (we've said before, for example, that a 'Toro' vitola is unique to the North American cigar market). I'd prefer to not derail this thread into discussions on the Factory names and Common names though. I agree with CigSid.
dvickery Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Puffing away on these just now ... And loving em ... So I guess as the title says ... Go bluejays Derrek
NSXCIGAR Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Purely conversationally, I've seen a Swiss merchant call dalias part of the churchill format... Yes, Gerard Pere refers to the 898V as a churchill in the Havana Cigars illustrated book from 1997. The Dalias is much, much closer to the Cervantes than a Julieta 2 so I always thought that was quite a stretch. And as far as the Fundadores being labeled a lonsdale, I'd have to put that one in the same category. The Laguito Especial #1 is much, much closer to the Laguito #1 "Gran Panetela-class" than a Cervantes.
NSXCIGAR Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 ...On a different subject I heard the Hoyo Des DIex is being talked about, is it still produced? I can't find them anywhere, are they a limited production or what? HDMDD is still officially produced in SLB 25s but apparently in very limited quantities. Rob could tell you how often he sees them and when the last time was. SLB 50s were officially discontinued in 2006 but I've recently seen a cab available at a Swiss retailer...
canadianbeaver Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Lisa loves the Lonsdale Monte 1 Cazadores LGC no 2 And I pushed some buttons: http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/list.aspx?&commonname=;Lonsdale;&includeimages=True&sortorder=noorder 1
RijkdeGooier Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 It is very unimportant but I also agree with Frank. The Laguito derivatives 1,2,3 and Extra are smoked differently than the Corona derivatives with rg42. For me the differnece in smoking is wthat defines the difference in 'families' of vitolas. Lenght is important but not the defining factor imo. That said, I know nothing about cigars and certainly respect anyones right to define their family of vitolas differently. 1
finecigar Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Big Lonsdale lover!! Miss the discontinued vitolas. I am right there with you Prez
atlharp Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 I dig Lonsdales too as long as they are rolled well. I had some Boli Lonsdales from '99 that were simply wonderful. I miss them. Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
maverickdrinker Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 been quietly stocking up on monte no. 1s for awhile now and long and skinnies in general.
GTS21 Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Not a fan generally. Construction issues ruin them for me.
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