Recommended Posts

Posted

The change of RG doesn't change the fact that a Laguito Especiale is still a long/grang panatela, and certainly not a lonsdale.

There's something common to the 3 "classic" lonsdale sizes (cervantes, dalia, cazadore) that a Laguito Especiale doesn't have. (smoking time to begin with, but evolution over time as well)

Come on, it's 27 mm longer than a cervantes, 30mm longer than a cazadore, it's a completely different smoking experience.

Practically speaking, this is very true. A cigar that is 192 mm long needs to be smoked slowly to be appreciated and not burn 'hot' and become tarry/bitter. A 42 rg x 165 mm Lonsdale perhaps is a little more forgiving. In my mind too, this is the vitola I relate to when I think of a Lonsdale.

Fight!!! No??

Haha...save it for Rugby! No, I respect Frank's experience and knowledge and welcome his opinion on these matters so that our community can benefit from a wider knowledge.

In relation to the naming of cigars, there is no common consensus, of course. In different parts of the world we have different names for cigars (we've said before, for example, that a 'Toro' vitola is unique to the North American cigar market).

I'd prefer to not derail this thread into discussions on the Factory names and Common names though. I agree with CigSid.

  • Replies 61
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

' Enjoyed over the weekend a Rafael Gonzalez Lonsdale and a Saint Luis Rey Lonsdale. both were excellent, both very different. i was taken back to a time of the Upmann Lonsdale, Partagas Lonsdale, Sa

"i could live on Lonsdales, Coronas and Corona Extras." Got my vote! If construction is right, I would smoke them over any others.

Perfect size the Lonsdales. Dalias, Cervantes, Cazadores among my favorite vitolas. VR Clasicos, SP Molinos, Boli Inmensas, Partagas PdP No. 1 all sorely missed. Make do with Siglo V, Parti 898, LG

Posted

Purely conversationally, I've seen a Swiss merchant call dalias part of the churchill format...

Yes, Gerard Pere refers to the 898V as a churchill in the Havana Cigars illustrated book from 1997. The Dalias is much, much closer to the Cervantes than a Julieta 2 so I always thought that was quite a stretch.

And as far as the Fundadores being labeled a lonsdale, I'd have to put that one in the same category. The Laguito Especial #1 is much, much closer to the Laguito #1 "Gran Panetela-class" than a Cervantes.

Posted

...On a different subject I heard the Hoyo Des DIex is being talked about, is it still produced? I can't find them anywhere, are they a limited production or what?

HDMDD is still officially produced in SLB 25s but apparently in very limited quantities. Rob could tell you how often he sees them and when the last time was.

SLB 50s were officially discontinued in 2006 but I've recently seen a cab available at a Swiss retailer...looking.gif

Posted

It is very unimportant but I also agree with Frank.

The Laguito derivatives 1,2,3 and Extra are smoked differently than the Corona derivatives with rg42.

For me the differnece in smoking is wthat defines the difference in 'families' of vitolas.

Lenght is important but not the defining factor imo.

That said, I know nothing about cigars and certainly respect anyones right to define their family of vitolas differently.

  • Like 1
Posted

Big Lonsdale lover!! peace.gif Miss the discontinued vitolas. I am right there with you Prez

Posted

I dig Lonsdales too as long as they are rolled well. I had some Boli Lonsdales from '99 that were simply wonderful. I miss them.

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

Community Software by Invision Power Services, Inc.