NSXCIGAR Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Count me among the lovers of the lonsdale and corona. Very sad to see almost all of them go. I understand that they're becoming less and less popular and that the trend is and has been larger sizes for many years but IMO eliminating cigars like the RG Lonsdale and the PL Lonsdale is simply a travesty. Popular or not, they were the flagships of their marcas. I find it extremely hard to understand why certain vitolas are totally discontinued in the modern era. Unless the tobacco is unavailable for that blend of course, which seems unrealistic over the long term. Production can surely be temporarily suspended as needed, or in order to clear slow-selling inventories. Most of the redundancies and truly poorly selling vitolas were axed in the 70s and 80s. Some of these marcas are down to just two or three models in the lineup! I mean come on. There's nobody who would buy an RG Lonsdales or Coronas Extra anymore? Either would be the largest cigar in their current lineup! And I'd love to have an alternative to the RASCC. I hate having to smoke two of them when a PC or Corona would be ideal. In addition, many of these vitolas had blends that were unique to their brands. The RG Coronas Extra is a perfect example. MRN states that it was the best RG model by general consensus. Discontinuing a brand's best cigar! Only HSA can pull that off. But of course they feel the need to flood us with a million regional editions with unheard-of sizes every darn year. Partagas mystifies me the most. A whole bunch of random small RG cigars (Habaneros, PCE, Super Partagas, Aristocrats, Mille Fleurs) and no PC, Corona or Lonsdale? Talk about the need for streamlining. Discontinuing the classics and keeping a bunch of small, previously machine-made holdovers...only HSA.
ChanceSchmerr Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I could wax poetic about the size forever. I miss Lonsdales quite a lot as well. my one half cab remaining of Partagas Lonsdales is one of my prized possessions.....especially after finding out one person went to Andorra and bought all remaining 6-7 Partagas lonsdale cabs they had there
Tomay Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I have recently found out that I prefer coronas and lonsdales myself to the fatter cigars that seem to be trending. Let's hope they come back into fashion.
CigSid Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I also love my lonsdales, the ones that I am smoking lately are: Partagas Seleccion Privada No.1 Partagas 8-9-8 Por Larranaga Lonsdales Bolívar Gold Medal Bolívar Inmensas (just got a box of these and love them) Trinidad Fundadores
ElAbogado Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I haven't had any lonsdales. As a slow smoker I tend to skew towards shorter length cigars. I do enjoy the thinner ring gauges though. Is there a lonsdale sampler available on the site? If not that may be an idea for a new one!
anacostiakat Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I too agree that I like the size. I pulled a Davidoff Mille Blend Lonnie out of the singles drawer last weekend. Not sure how old it was but it was very tasty. Far too few of this size remain.
JohnS Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Trinidad Fundadores Not a lonsdale. Prior to regular production in 1997 these were 38 ring gauge by 192 mm, so the Vitola de Galera is a Laguito No.1 or common name of Long Panatela. With regular production the ring gauge was changed to 40/64ths of an inch, which makes its Vitola de Galera a Laguito Especial, or common name of Lonsdale. http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brand.aspx?brand=Trinidad#Fundadores http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/list-factorynames.aspx http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/common-names.aspx Perhaps you meant a Cervantes (a 42 ring gauge by 165 mm cigar, such as the Montecristo No.1 for example), if going by Factory names?
Duxnutz Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Lonsdales are great. Can't wait til im 'dodgy rapper rich' and can commission a batch of commemorative SLR and RG Lonsdales! Ahh u did mention the ERDM Lonsdale. Also fantastic. Enjoy those better than the Tainos!
Smallclub Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Prior to regular production in 1997 these were 38 ring gauge by 192 mm, so the Vitola de Galera is a Laguito No.1 or common name of Long Panatela. With regular production the ring gauge was changed to 40/64ths of an inch, which makes its Vitola de Galera a Laguito Especial, or common name of Lonsdale. The change of RG doesn't change the fact that a Laguito Especiale is still a long/grang panatela, and certainly not a lonsdale. There's something common to the 3 "classic" lonsdale sizes (cervantes, dalia, cazadore) that a Laguito Especiale doesn't have. (smoking time to begin with, but evolution over time as well) Come on, it's 27 mm longer than a cervantes, 30mm longer than a cazadore, it's a completely different smoking experience. 1
joeypots Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I smoked my last Partagas lonsdale on Sunday. That was a cab! The loss of the vitola is terrible. There may be something to the old idea that the corona, 42, ring gauge is the best. So many great cigars of that ilk that are gone only to be replaced by toilet paper tubes. 1
Fumadoro Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 For my tastes, both Cuban and non, Lonsdales bring out the best in a cigar for me. Complex, upfront flavors, elegant feeling in the hand, and a slightly tighter draw than is found in a lot of larger ring gauge smokes. Coronas and Petit Coronas follow closely behind in favor. 1
btp1979 Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I have a cab of 898s put away for longterm aging, but I do like the size. When I find a NC I like, I generally find that I like the Lonsdale size the best of the line (if they have one)
winelover Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Lonsdales and thevlike are great. I despair at the increasing number of jaw dislocating wide girth chomps that are even in excess of 52RG. IMO no need for anything thicker, it is unbecoming of Cuban cigar heritage and very much a trait if NC sticks. I understand that they do it for commercial reasons but plain wrong! 1
LGC Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Lonsdale and dalias are top 3 size for me. Thanks to HSA, the vitola is now dead to me. Only 898V, Monte, RyJ, and VR left...
CigSid Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Not a lonsdale. I agree with John and the CCW, the common name of the Laguito Especial aka Tinidad Fundadores is Lonsdale... 1
ayepatz Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I agree with John and the CCW, the common name of the Laguito Especial aka Tinidad Fundadores is Lonsdale... Fight!!! No??
Al3xanderdelag Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I love lonsdales along with Corona Gordas. I wish they would become a more popular size, I just wish Habanos would figure out the majority likes smaller ring gauge cigars. I will be sad the day I see a 6X60 habanos. On a different subject I heard the Hoyo Des DIex is being talked about, is it still produced? I can't find them anywhere, are they a limited production or what?
Smallclub Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I agree with John and the CCW, the common name of the Laguito Especial aka Tinidad Fundadores is Lonsdale... This is an error. Mind you, CCWS is not the Tablet of Laws. Most of these "common names" don't make sense in Western Europe. No one here would evoke a "giant xxxx" or a "double xxxx". Call a Fundadores a "lonsdale" in a swiss, french, belgian, spanish cigar shop, and every one will correct you (those who don't roll their eyes or laugh…). Every one here calls a Fundadores a [long/grand] panatela or even a lancero, because it smokes like a panatela and must be smoked like a panatela. The original lonsdale (cervantes) is a declination of the corona size, the Fundadores is a declination of the long/grand panatela. A cigar 192mm long can NOT bear the same appellation (technical, commercial, or "common") as a cigar 165mm long… The minutos, mareva, corona, corona grande and cervantes are all 42rg, respectively 110, 129, 142, 155 and 165 mm long, and all of them have a distinct "common name"… 2
CigSid Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 This an error. Mind you, CCWS is not the Tablet of Laws. Most of these "common names" don't make sense in Europe. No one here would evoke a "giant xxxx" or a "double xxxx". Call a Fundadores a "lonsdale" in a european cigar shop, every one will correct you (those who don't roll their eyes or laugh…). Every one here calls a Fundadores a [long/grand] panatela or even a lancero, because it smokes like a panatela and must be smoked like a panatela. The original lonsdale (cervantes) is a declination of the corona size, the Fundadores is a declination of the long/grand panatela. With a minimal experience it's an evidence… If you feel that strongly about it, you can have your way... It's certainly not worth arguing (at least to me)
Colt45 Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I agree with John and the CCW, the common name of the Laguito Especial aka Tinidad Fundadores is Lonsdale... Purely conversationally, I've seen a Swiss merchant call dalias part of the churchill format. Habanos has called a robusto a short churchill (never understood it - a corona gorda is much closer to a short churchill). Might as well call coronas lonsdales. or dogs cats, or apples bananas. Marcas, vitolas, pairings, pinkies out, salida, galera...... I guess if one wants to speak a language, they should learn it. But I would agree that it doesn't really get my panties in a bunch ( if I wore them ).
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