Am i wrong ?

[Williamos]

I'm starting to think there might be something more at play with NK.

Lurching between huge highs and huge lows, with little capacity to control his moods...


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[Ken Gargett]

On 16/10/2015 at 6:49 AM, Jeremy Festa said:

This is 2015, not 1915 mate.

and now it is 2016, almost an entire year to the day on, and he is still an utter and total tosser and getting away with the same crap.

he has learnt nothing and shame on the authorities for doing nothing about him. they should also be banned.

i would tie him to a shark net but i doubt any shark would have the bad taste to bite him.

[Jeremy Festa]

8 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said:

and now it is 2016, almost an entire year to the day on, and he is still an utter and total tosser and getting away with the same crap.

he has learnt nothing and shame on the authorities for doing nothing about him. they should also be banned.

i would tie him to a shark net but i doubt any shark would have the bad taste to bite him.

For the sake of conversation, again, I am going to retort, with the following, this is 2016, not 1916 mate. 

In all honesty. It is not this kid's fault. He is a product of his direct environment, and lack of our collective expectations. 

If I earned that much money, when I was 21, I would probably be viewed in much the same manner by you Ken.

And going out on a limb, a lot of us would.

Times have changed. 

To become an elite athlete is far harder and more competitive than it used to be. These kids are filled to the brim, by others, with positive re-enforcements, boosting their motivation, confidence and as a result their ego. It is a sure fire way to achieve great things. Then they are paid a lot of money. And then they live their lives in the public eye. 

 

So, for the sake of this thread, and entertainment alike, I say "Go Nick! You silly prick! Go play the tennis and entertain us all. So we have things to talk about other than cigars and booze and food and fishing." 

And just quietly, I hope he hits someone soon. Tennis needs more of that bad boy image. 

Now, where did I put my vintage 1970's Sergio Tacchini tracksuit top. 

I am bringing that shit back. 

 

 

 

[GasGuy82]

I'm embarrassed this Malaka is Greek. 

[Jeremy Festa]

Also, I went to a talk up at the school the other day. It was about developmental psychology and all that jazz.

To keep it brief,  the general scientific consensus is that a male's mental maturity isn't attained until the age of 25. 

So, there's that for Nick to fall back on too. 

"Go Nick!" 

 

[Ken Gargett]

17 minutes ago, Jeremy Festa said:

For the sake of conversation, again, I am going to retort, with the following, this is 2016, not 1916 mate. 

In all honesty. It is not this kid's fault. He is a product of his direct environment, and lack of our collective expectations. 

If I earned that much money, when I was 21, I would probably be viewed in much the same manner by you Ken.

And going out on a limb, a lot of us would.

Times have changed. 

To become an elite athlete is far harder and more competitive than it used to be. These kids are filled to the brim, by others, with positive re-enforcements, boosting their motivation, confidence and as a result their ego. It is a sure fire way to achieve great things. Then they are paid a lot of money. And then they live their lives in the public eye.

So, for the sake of this thread, and entertainment alike, I say "Go Nick! You silly prick! Go play the tennis and entertain us all. So we have things to talk about other than cigars and booze and food and fishing." 

And just quietly, I hope he hits someone soon. Tennis needs more of that bad boy image. 

Now, where did I put my vintage 1970's Sergio Tacchini tracksuit top. 

I am bringing that shit back.

okay, shame it isn't 1916. we could send him to war. mind you, if the germans had any brains, they would not shoot him. he would be a better weapon for them left alive stuffing things for us.

by 1916, my grandfather had already spent three years in the trenches, everywhere from gallipolli to france, and he was still younger than this idiot.

it is this kid's fault. and the fault of his family (they should be so ashamed). and the authorities for continually turning a blind eye. they helped create this monster.

"To become an elite athlete is far harder and more competitive than it used to be". i would argue the contrary. the money allows them to make a career whereas in the past, it was much more difficult. i was talking with ron archer's widow (friend of the family) recently and was stunned that one of our best young all-rounders had to retire at around 22 or 23 (i forget which). he simply had no choice - had to make a career elsewhere. my old man had possibilities in both tennis and cricket - could not pursue either. had to make a career (who knows if he would have got anywhere but never had the chance, though he never regretted it, i think). there are thousands of examples. the money these days allows people with talent to follow the dream.

jeremy, i don't think you would have acted that way and carried on as a tosser. i know i would not have done so. if i had so much as even ventured down that road, my family would have torn strips off me (had i been earning that sort of money, i would have been the richest, grounded kid in the country). there are plenty of kids earning serious money and not acting like morons. it is not compulsory to act without a shred of dignity or intelligence. they don't always act this way. have a look at a kid like david pocock. a credit to his family, himself, his sport, his country.

i hope he hits someone also - they might hit him back or perhaps then the authorities might act.

i was not aware that Tacchini gear had gone out of style. not in this house!

now, as i have apparently offended all new zealand, thanks to a mate who kindly posted a private email i wrote to him on one of the newspaper sites over there (thanks for the warning and the request!), in response to some blithering imbecilic kiwi commentator who needs to come out of his parents' basement, away from the rotting corpses, into the light and realise that it is not a crime to be an irrelevant nation, i have other fires to douse.

new zealand, the kyrgios of nations.

[Jeremy Festa]

18 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said:

okay, shame it isn't 1916. we could send him to war. mind you, if the germans had any brains, they would not shoot him. he would be a better weapon for them left alive stuffing things for us.

by 1916, my grandfather had already spent three years in the trenches, everywhere from gallipolli to france, and he was still younger than this idiot.

it is this kid's fault. and the fault of his family (they should be so ashamed). and the authorities for continually turning a blind eye. they helped create this monster.

"To become an elite athlete is far harder and more competitive than it used to be". i would argue the contrary. the money allows them to make a career whereas in the past, it was much more difficult. i was talking with ron archer's widow (friend of the family) recently and was stunned that one of our best young all-rounders had to retire at around 22 or 23 (i forget which). he simply had no choice - had to make a career elsewhere. my old man had possibilities in both tennis and cricket - could not pursue either. had to make a career (who knows if he would have got anywhere but never had the chance, though he never regretted it, i think). there are thousands of examples. the money these days allows people with talent to follow the dream.

jeremy, i don't think you would have acted that way and carried on as a tosser. i know i would not have done so. if i had so much as even ventured down that road, my family would have torn strips off me (had i been earning that sort of money, i would have been the richest, grounded kid in the country). there are plenty of kids earning serious money and not acting like morons. it is not compulsory to act without a shred of dignity or intelligence. they don't always act this way. have a look at a kid like david pocock. a credit to his family, himself, his sport, his country.

i hope he hits someone also - they might hit him back or perhaps then the authorities might act.

i was not aware that Tacchini gear had gone out of style. not in this house!

now, as i have apparently offended all new zealand, thanks to a mate who kindly posted a private email i wrote to him on one of the newspaper sites over there (thanks for the warning and the request!), in response to some blithering imbecilic kiwi commentator who needs to come out of his parents' basement, away from the rotting corpses, into the light and realise that it is not a crime to be an irrelevant nation, i have other fires to douse.

new zealand, the kyrgios of nations.

This. And only this. Is the reason I disagreed. 

I have a stupid big smile on my face.

Ken. I concede. You are 100% correct. Apart from the elite sports bit. 

Improvements in knowledge for training and technology for equipment etc mean that sports are played to a higher level. But mainly my point was due to increased participation levels. Making it harder. And the fact that sport is now fully blown "entertainment." Which is where a lot of the money comes from. 

So, let's say, 95% correct.

 

[Ken Gargett]

1 minute ago, Jeremy Festa said:

This. And only this. Is the reason I disagreed. 

I have a stupid big smile on my face.

Ken. I concede. You are 100% correct. Apart from the elite sports bit. 

Improvements in knowledge for training and technology for equipment etc mean that sports are played to a higher level. But mainly my point was due to increased participation levels. Making it harder. And the fact that sport is now fully blown "entertainment." Which is where a lot of the money comes from. 

So, let's say, 95% correct.

 

i'll take it.

[JohnS]

1 hour ago, GasGuy82 said:

I'm embarrassed this Malaka is Greek. 

Yes, but thankfully only half-Greek. His mother is Malaysian, apparently of royal heritage and his name in Greek means "Lord" or "Master". A better modern-day translation of his surname might be "Sir". It's all deliciously ironic! 

33 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said:

new zealand, the kyrgios of nations.

Please, let's not bring Rugby or current Bryan Brown advertisements for Air New Zealand into this discussion...it'll become too much for me! Now, where was I? Oh yeah, enjoying my lovely post-work afternoon EML 15 SCdLH El Principe. Mmmm....now I feel better! 

[Ken Gargett]

17 minutes ago, JohnS said:

Please, let's not bring Rugby or current Bryan Brown advertisements for Air New Zealand into this discussion...it'll become too much for me! Now, where was I? Oh yeah, enjoying my lovely post-work afternoon EML 15 SCdLH El Principe. Mmmm....now I feel better! 

have not seen the brown ads. sad to hear he sold out.

my fave nz ad was andrew denton's response to that old "stay where you are, new zealand, we're coming over". his was simply, "stay where you are, new zealand, stay where you are".

[PigFish]

Di, I am a simple fellow at heart.

I don't know this guy from Adam, but he seems like a good excuse to buy a new pair of shoes! I mean why make the day a loss for everyone? Am I right?

Cheers! -R

[David88]

I saw the recent NK incident on the news. What a complete plank. I appreciate it must be hard for some of these young people to be thrown into the spotlight from a young age and face the criticism that comes inevitably with professional sport. But it's hard to swallow when you see someone with this talent just so oblivious to what they have and not caring about the privileged position they are in. 

Some people could work their whole lives and not have the level of skill he does and yet he decides when he does and doesn't try in a professional match?!