Popular Post Ryan Posted May 22, 2015 Popular Post Posted May 22, 2015 So it looks like Ireland will be the first country in the world to approve same-sex marriage by popular vote. The referendum is on today and looks like it will go through, barring a huge surprise. We've come a long way, I hope, since we decriminalised homosexuality in 1993. This has struck quite a cord here, with a lot of emigrants returning home specifically to vote. One emigrant, living in Melbourne, couldn't make it back to vote but happened to see his dad on the news with the classic joke. It deserves a listen. http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/dad-joke-marriage-referendum-2118776-May2015/ 10
Ken Gargett Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 that is a classic. without going all political, and as someone who is neither *** nor married i am probably the least qualified person on earth to comment, but it is something that has never bothered me at all. i see how happy it has made a couple of my *** friends in spain and it is beyond me why some people are so keen to stop others being happy. we have a fishing trip to fraser island every year - ten blokes. this came up once. i've known many of these guys for decades and some are definitely "leftish" (i am considered quite to the right of most of them). yet to a man, they were strongly opposed. i was rather bewildered. still am. as for the religious aspect, probably best i leave that alone as rob would have me shut down in seconds.
Popular Post earthson Posted May 23, 2015 Popular Post Posted May 23, 2015 Wasn't it illegal for people with different skin colors to marry like a hundred years ago? It was in the southeastern US! Love is love. Never trust people who hate on love. 8
finecigar Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Round of applause. Very happy day. I am glad one country has the right idea 1
Ken Gargett Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Wasn't it illegal for people with different skin colors to marry like a hundred years ago? It was in the southeastern US! Love is love. Never trust people who hate on love. not wanting to hijack this thread with a 'debate' on religion, i will post my fave ever response to the religious in another thread - i should add that it is extremely funny (or i think it is) and hopefully will be seen as such by all.
PapaDisco Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Oh THAT's what "same sex" means! I'm definitely voting against THAT!
RickHendeson Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 No sound on my compy, can someone please print the joke
oliverdst Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Wasn't it illegal for people with different skin colors to marry like a hundred years ago? It was in the southeastern US! Love is love. Never trust people who hate on love. in brazil is still illegal. as we only have indians and black people, only black people can marry eachother. indians too. but if you are an indian *** you can marry a black ***. like, crossover. 1
DrunkenMonkey Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Wasn't it illegal for people with different skin colors to marry like a hundred years ago? It was in the southeastern US! Love is love. Never trust people who hate on love. Not a hundred years ago. It wasn't until 1967 that the Supreme Court struck down laws banning interracial marriage. At that time these insane laws were on the books in 16 states. 1
PapaDisco Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Not a hundred years ago. It wasn't until 1967 that the Supreme Court struck down laws banning interracial marriage. At that time these insane laws were on the books in 16 states. There's still a fair number of irrational and invasive laws on the books in several States outlawing some sexual practices between couples, same sex or different sex or whatever!
Jeremy Festa Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Good luck Ireland. I hope they lead the way for many more to follow. Also, the dad joke was all time! Sent from my iPhone
Popular Post Ryan Posted May 23, 2015 Author Popular Post Posted May 23, 2015 No sound on my compy, can someone please print the joke "I'm all in favour of same sex marriage because I've been having 'same sex' with the wife for the last 30 years." 8
Jeremy Festa Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Just heard Dublin is at 80% Yes! Always thought Ireland was progressive as! Sent from my iPhone
shlomo Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Why did Ireland have to take a popular vote? There are 20 other countries who legalized it with no need of any vote.
LordAnubis Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 I believe because this is a change to their constitution. Changes to a constitution require a referrendum. In Aus it's the same. To change constitution you need pass a bill through parliament, then the governor general passes off permission to run a referendum then the people vote.
hellorockview12 Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 It always makes me happy when same sex marriages are allowed. Don't like same sex marriages? Don't have one. Other than that it doesn't affect anyone else! I can't imagine how happy the *** community is to win that battle! 1
Rye Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Same sex marriage was boring. I like all kinds of different sex, that's when it's really fun! Good on them! 1
Ryan Posted May 23, 2015 Author Posted May 23, 2015 Why did Ireland have to take a popular vote? There are 20 other countries who legalized it with no need of any vote.As Mus says, it's because it required a change to the constitution. Any amendment to the constitution here needs a referendum. Although there was no mention in the constitution of marriage having to be between a man and a woman, the courts had already interpreted it to mean that, as it was written in the 1930s. A constitutional amendment was required to make it clear, thus the referendum.Dublin came back with 70-75% yes. 1
Phillys Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 I still can't believe that this could bother anyone! Who cares what other people do, live and let live.
Ken Gargett Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 I believe because this is a change to their constitution. Changes to a constitution require a referrendum. In Aus it's the same. To change constitution you need pass a bill through parliament, then the governor general passes off permission to run a referendum then the people vote. we had the added issue that not only do you need a majority of people, you need a majority of the states so you can get a majority of people in favour and still lose. might be wrong but i'd be very surprised f we needed a referendum here though.
bolivr Posted May 24, 2015 Posted May 24, 2015 I'm for it too and because i don't understand the "no" vote i would like to see someone post their views from that side.
KRunch61 Posted May 24, 2015 Posted May 24, 2015 that is a classic. without going all political, and as someone who is neither *** nor married i am probably the least qualified person on earth to comment, but it is something that has never bothered me at all. i see how happy it has made a couple of my *** friends in spain and it is beyond me why some people are so keen to stop others being happy. we have a fishing trip to fraser island every year - ten blokes. this came up once. i've known many of these guys for decades and some are definitely "leftish" (i am considered quite to the right of most of them). yet to a man, they were strongly opposed. i was rather bewildered. still am. as for the religious aspect, probably best i leave that alone as rob would have me shut down in seconds. x2
DrunkenMonkey Posted May 24, 2015 Posted May 24, 2015 It wasn't so long ago that this was used as a wedge issue by opponents of same-sex marriage here in the US. I don't think it would work now, but it got a lot of conservatives to come out to vote in the 2004 elections, when lots of states had ballot initiatives banning same sex marriage. I think it's along the same lines as the anti-smoking laws: Some people will do anything they can to keep other people from doing what makes them happy.
dicko Posted May 24, 2015 Posted May 24, 2015 we had the added issue that not only do you need a majority of people, you need a majority of the states so you can get a majority of people in favour and still lose. might be wrong but i'd be very surprised f we needed a referendum here though. I think it's just a normal amendment to the Marriage Act passing both houses in the usual manner. Don't think it's a constitutional matter. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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