Habana Mike Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 I've been involved in a project for almost a year now that involves smoking and analyzing a lot of cigars blind. The input I and a few other 'analysts' provided have gone in to a database of cigar characteristics (construction, burn, aromas, flavors, balance, strength, value for the buck, etc.). Anyway there's now close to 1200 cigars from across the board (standard NC stuff, boutiques, limited releases, Habanos, and more). The principals of the project have recently gone live with a website designed to learn an individual's profile and preferences so as to recommend cigars they believe he or she would enjoy based on the analysis compared to his likes. While probably most useful for the newer smoker in particular, there's value in this for anyone. Even with years of smoking experience, through the process I've been recommended cigars I may never have tried otherwise and some have been fantastic for me. As well I've found quite a few new favorites through the blind tastings along with a few that just don't sit with my palate. It is a subscription site and while I am affiliated do not have any financial stake. I do however get to smoke several cigars a week at no cost to me! The value proposition is that while there is a moderate monthly subscription, by avoiding one cigar that you aren't particularly going to enjoy you've saved the cost of the service. You'll also hopefully find the cigars recommended fit well with your palate. The site is CigarSense.com - Personalized Expert Cigar Recommendations One of the premises of the service is that, unlike reviews and general recommendations where your palate may not match theirs, this is designed to learn what you like and make recommendations from that. Like most, I also use reviews and recommendations to decide on trying new smokes, particularly where I've found the individual has a palate similar to mine though that doesn't necessarily always pan out. In regard to changing tastes, the profile adviser adjusts and refines your preferences every time you enter tasting notes based on the characteristics of the cigar and how you rated your enjoyment of it. I checked with Rob in regard to posting about this as it is somewhat commercial in nature, though not tied in to retail in any way, I am really more interested to hear people's opinions on their perceived value of something along these lines than anything else. So, what do you think? 2
GasGuy82 Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 It sounds pretty cool, I think I would at least consider giving it a go. Really for me it could go one of two ways, enter my findings as I smoke a stick or get lazy and forget to enter my tasting notes. Either way, got my interest.
bradbrennan Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Pretty cool, Mike! Thanks for all your hard work
RickHendeson Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 It certainly is an interesting concept. To me, what would be even MORE interesting was to open it wide up and completely crowdsource it. Namely, by upping the subscription price and then sending blind sampler packs to anyone who wants one, letting them input the results. What if the "experts" (the site does use that term) taste things differently than us mere mortals? Anyway you wanted feedback, that's my thought. If you guys end up using it in whole or in part, I appreciate my complimentary subscription.
Habana Mike Posted April 24, 2015 Author Posted April 24, 2015 Some good points Rich, thanks for the feedback. When I first got involved they had me pick up a sampler of various cigars representing a cross-section of characteristics to help establish my preferences. Today your baseline profile is established by rating your preferences and then refining that. They're not in the business to sell cigars, rather to recommend. The analysis done by the 'experts' is to establish baselines to compare to your preferences. Granted everyone's palate is different so each cigar is smoked by multiple members with the results consolidated in an attempt to account for this. Regarding the 'experts', these are among a few. I certainly don't count myself in their company but who's to complain? Cosimo Attanasi, Italy Panelist at the national Cigar Club Association (CCA)Certified CatadorSpeaker for the CCA national cigar experts certification program (Catadores)Writer for the national magazine ‘Sigari!’ specializing in vintage Cuban cigars and single malt scotch whiskyPresident of Puromotivo Torino Cigar ClubLover and collector of single malt scotch whisky Franca Comparetto, USA Certified CatadorCertified Salesforce Tobacconist (Tobacconist University)Panelist at Cigar JournalWriter for the Italian nationwide magazine ‘Sigari!’Served as Advisor of the Board of the Puromotivo Torino Cigar Club, ItalyCreator of Cigar Sense Alban Cordier, France Member of the Tasting Committee of l’Amateur de CigareAuthor of the book ‘ID Reflex’ Cigare, Bien Deguster un Cigare’ Franel Editions, 2010Panelist and writer for International Amateur de Cigare Nicola Di Nunzio, Italy Responsible for the national Cigar Club Association (CCA) panelCertified CatadorWriter and coordinator for the nationwide magazine ‘Sigari!’, specializing in vintage Cuban cigars and related collectible objectsMember of the Board of the Italian Cigar Club Association (CCA), TreasurerTreasurer and Secretary of Puromotivo Torino Cigar Club“Massimo De Giovanni – Uomo CCA 2014″ award winner Nick Hammond, United Kingdom Panelist at Cigar JournalAward winning Cigar WriterTrained journalist and writer by trade, specialising in Luxury, Travel, Food, Drinks and The Good Life: Cigar Aficionado, Cigar Journal, FT How To Spend It, Mayfair Magazine, Country Life, Cigar & Spirits and more Martin Odh, Sweden Panelist at Cigar JournalHabanos expert at Cigarrummet, StockholmCigar and wine tasting professionalCollector of French and Italian wine Rajan Rengasamy, United Arab Emirates Wordwide Habanos Sommelier contest Finalist 3rd place – 2011Winner of 2010 & 2011 Habanos Sommelier Competition – UAEJury expert for the UAE Habanos Sommelier competition contendersMiddle East Sommelier of the year – 2011Winner of the international ‘Sake sommelier of the Year’ contest – 2013 Reinhold C. Widmayer, Austria Editor in Chief, Cigar Journal Anonymous Expert, USA Lifetime Member and Ambassador of Cigar Rights of AmericaModerator of and contributor to many social media cigar related groupsWriter of a cigar blogConnoisseur of bourbon and coffee; lover of beverage pairings with cigars Anonymous Expert, USA Freelance tasting and sensory seminar instructorPreparing PhD in Sensory Sciences, with a focus on the human experienceReviews in international cigar forums and Cigar Clan magazineBachelor’s with high honors as well as Master’s of Science in Viticulture and Enology from the University of California, DavisResearch on sensory outcomes of viticultural treatmentsEngineering degree in Viticulture and Enology from a renowned German research Institution, focus on process engineering and sensory sciences. Professional experience at prestigious wineries in Germany and California Anonymous Expert, Europe. Has served for many years as: Member of the board of a national cigar club associationResponsible for a national cigar experts certification program and relevant exams administratorPanelist at a national cigar club associationExecutive supervisor of a nationwide cigar magazine
PigFish Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 ... Let me guess...! Match.com ... no that is taken already...! -LOL Sorry Mike, could not resist a little levity. Thanks for sharing the info. Good luck on the project. Anything that promotes smoking and is not totally myth based or full of collector BS is a plus in my book, but it does not sound like it will be good 'blind date' for this old pig! Too set in my ways I guess. Never really bought into the whole 'smoking professional' thing. On a side note, don't sell yourself short. I would take a recommendation from you over any of those guys... I might want to date the Anonymous Expert though... How tall is she? Forget that, how many boxes does she own? Please post a picture of her humidor!!! -LOL Cheers -R
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