Gains in placing Cigars in ziplock bags in coolidor

[RijkdeGooier]

Are we rehashing the ICC thread here? Same players, same arguments...

Then the conclusions were more or less:

1. It def helps to protect against beetle outbreaks in an environment that doesn't get opened much

2. It helps to remain the Rh and temp more constant if the humidor you keep them in is opened

3. Argument 2 looses validity the less you open the humidor

4. Practical experience suggests that there is a difference between two boxes that were kept in similar circumstances. We don't have a record on how many times the humidor is opened in these cases.

5. Other factors, such a constant temp, are very important when maintaining constant Rh. Temp changes directly affect your Rh.

[ewipper]

  On 12/23/2014 at 4:20 PM, RijkdeGooier said:

Are we rehashing the ICC thread here? Same players, same arguments...

Then the conclusions were more or less:

1. It def helps to protect against beetle outbreaks in an environment that doesn't get opened much

2. It helps to remain the Rh and temp more constant if the humidor you keep them in is opened

3. Argument 2 looses validity the less you open the humidor

4. Practical experience suggests that there is a difference between two boxes that were kept in similar circumstances. We don't have a record on how many times the humidor is opened in these cases.

5. Other factors, such a constant temp, are very important when maintaining constant Rh. Temp changes directly affect your Rh.

Yes...I assume that the OP is using beads, which can either make a rain forest in your humidor if soaked too much or get dry if the seal is not good on the cooler.

BTW, the best way to protect against beetles is to freeze. Or to buy Davidoff and Fuente. Then you don't have to store in arctic temperatures, you can keep your cigars warmer and don't need to worry about anything.

[Colt45]

  On 12/22/2014 at 11:45 PM, dangolf18 said:

Why would someone want to slow down the aging process?

Good question. I would guess that many members probably enjoy the process of acquiring and maintaining their cigars themselves. For me, if bagging allows for maturation while mitigating the degradation of time, then it makes sense. If to simply slow down the inevitable, less so.

But if I can't trust the consistency of one cigar to the next within a box, never mind that of box to box, it's all dust in the wind....

[CanuckSARTech]

  On 12/23/2014 at 4:11 PM, Diamondog said:

Yes I get that and agree...but unless one is using IMO commercial grade materials and vacuum sealing which I suspect most don't have...you will not get anything more than what the cooler itself can provide...

Big difference between the cheap poly-whatever used in standard clear ziploc bags, and then the thicker clear or blue freezer bags, and then moreso with the heavier-duty poly-different-plastic used in vacuum bags.

[Diamondog]

  On 12/30/2014 at 8:34 AM, CanuckSARTech said:

Big difference between the cheap poly-whatever used in standard clear ziploc bags, and then the thicker clear or blue freezer bags, and then moreso with the heavier-duty poly-different-plastic used in vacuum bags.

Yes for sure there are better materials out there but the word ziplock is being thrown around and they would be useless IMO.

[PigFish]

Friend: Wow, those are nice humidors that you have! Why so many?

CA: I age my own cigars. Aging is important to flavor, some cigars must age for 10 to 20 years before they are at their peak.

Friend: I see. Is there no way to speed that up so we can we smoke a few now???

CA: I wish we could.

Friend: Why do your wrap them all in plastic bags.

CA: Well, I don't want to expose them to the air as it might cause them to deteriorate.

Friend: ... right about the time they are aged then, they would go bad, I see! What is the difference between aging and deteriorating then?

CA: I don't really know, I just don't want one TO happen and the other NOT TO happen, at the same time.

Friend: Why don't you just get fresh cigars every year let them age for a little while and smoke them before they deteriorate?

CA: I never thought of that... What fun would that be?

...And I thought my stable conditions obsession was weird!!! -LOL

I know, I know, I have no right to be funnin' anyone about obsessions!!!

Cheers! -Piggy

[dougincanada]

If you are regulating humidity properly. A standard ziplock wastes your effort. My understanding is that a "vegatable" zipplock bags allows a small amount of humidity to transfer which helps preserve fruit and veggies. Moisture will collect at the surface of veggies in sealed bags which can premote mould. Vegi bags prevent this allowing a small amount of moisture transfer. The same should hold true to a lesser degree with cigars. Also if you like the cedar notes in box aged cigars, consider putting that thin cedar sheet that comes in some better brand cigar boxes in the bag with your stoogies.You can cut those to size and slip them in for a slight cedar note to your aging.

Regards.

[JohnS]

I recently used a ziploc bag with a water pillow humidity sachet as drybox device for some Punch cigars. The humidity was less than my humidor and the cigars were very pleasant to smoke.