And this is why you cooler dive now and then

[Ginseng]

Went in to check on some foil-wrapped boxes I had forgotten I'd laid at the bottom of one of my long term coolers and found these. Well, hello, boys! It's been a long time.

Montecristo D 2005 EL

Bolivar Especiales No. 2 2009 RE Germany

What sort of stuff have you found that you'd completely forgotten you had bought?

[MrGTO]

NC's

[shlomo]

[REASON]

Great rediscovery!

[Maplepie]

I remember when I kept 5 punch SSs stored which survived my 'vintage purge' a while back.

Thank God they were still around. Had one not too long ago.

An RA Corona buried under my box of Punch Coronas. That was nice to find.

Here's to labelling your cigars with no bands!!

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[Maplepie]

On a side note... why do you foil wrap boxes?

For me, it's either foil wrap individuals or plastic bag the boxes with a small hole open.

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[oliverdst]

Man, these Especiales boxes are huge.

I wonder the size of your humi(s).

I was checking my cigars few hours ago and found a box of PSD4 intact. On the other hand I couldn't find another one I thought was almost in the end. Kind of even.

[fabes]

Well isn't that a pleasant surprise!

[IPORTER]

very nice find!

[CaptainQuintero]

Found a home made SLB (out of old Quintero boxes!) way in the back of my wine fridge a couple of weeks ago, it had 25 Ravi lonsdales inside, must be 3 years or so when I grabbed them

[Ginseng]

On a side note... why do you foil wrap boxes?

For me, it's either foil wrap individuals or plastic bag the boxes with a small hole open.

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For really long term storage, 10 yrs+, I use foil to maximally slow down oxygen-dependent aging processes. This is my practical approach to a theoretical situation: cigars that I treasure, plan to smoke infrequently, and which I wish to extend their accessibility indefinitely. Well, as long as I live, then. So for example, the Tangs, OR Siglo VI, supercabs of prized cigars, codes, etc.

I've made this choice based on my understanding and research of the chemistry and chemical engineering behind the phenomenon. I'm no dilettante. I have advanced degrees and over dozen years of experience in the field. This is why occasionally discussions get out of hand. There are only a handful of members here and at other forums with similar backgrounds but we rarely form the bulk of communications on the topic. That sounded snobbish but I don't mean it in that way.

I also use zippered polyethylene bags. I put cigars that I stock multiple boxes of, smoke at a moderate rate, and expect to turn over every few years. For example, RASS and Partagas Shorts cabs. Zip bags are always fully sealed as the point of bagging is to slow down, to a lesser degree than foil, aging. For this, we rely on the properties of the poly as a membrane the inherent properties of which provide that "respirational throttling." Leaving the bags open doesn't make sense with respect to this intent.

And then there are some packages these and other cigars that I leave bare in cooler. Those are more my "ready to smoke." For example dressed boxes of Boli CJs, PSD4, etc.

My storage choices are also driven by my personal taste for younger, more forward profiles of the cigars I enjoy. Thus, slowing to varying degrees but not freezing development meets my near and long term needs.

Does that help?

Wilkey

[Ryan]

Recently a mixed bag of 25 Reinaldos from about 2011 that I had completely forgotten about.

That's really about it. My memory is too good to surprise myself too often, unfortunately.

[ramon_cojones]

recently found a box of upe d4s on my RA shelf i forgot I had and they are smoking wonderful since I decided to crack them

[PigFish]

For really long term storage, 10 yrs+, I use foil to maximally slow down oxygen-dependent aging processes. This is my practical approach to a theoretical situation: cigars that I treasure, plan to smoke infrequently, and which I wish to extend their accessibility indefinitely. Well, as long as I live, then. So for example, the Tangs, OR Siglo VI, supercabs of prized cigars, codes, etc.

I've made this choice based on my understanding and research of the chemistry and chemical engineering behind the phenomenon. I'm no dilettante. I have advanced degrees and over dozen years of experience in the field. This is why occasionally discussions get out of hand. There are only a handful of members here and at other forums with similar backgrounds but we rarely form the bulk of communications on the topic. That sounded snobbish but I don't mean it in that way.

I also use zippered polyethylene bags. I put cigars that I stock multiple boxes of, smoke at a moderate rate, and expect to turn over every few years. For example, RASS and Partagas Shorts cabs. Zip bags are always fully sealed as the point of bagging is to slow down, to a lesser degree than foil, aging. For this, we rely on the properties of the poly as a membrane the inherent properties of which provide that "respirational throttling." Leaving the bags open doesn't make sense with respect to this intent.

And then there are some packages these and other cigars that I leave bare in cooler. Those are more my "ready to smoke." For example dressed boxes of Boli CJs, PSD4, etc.

My storage choices are also driven by my personal taste for younger, more forward profiles of the cigars I enjoy. Thus, slowing to varying degrees but not freezing development meets my near and long term needs.

Does that help?

Wilkey

You forgot to mention that you can make hats out of the foil that is left over on the roll... -LOL I think FoH needs an official egghead sub-forum! A proven technical obsession is required...

I think Wilkey is trying to say... I know what I want to do and do it for a reason, a reason that I understand fully, and if you choose to argue with me about it, you will be sorry!!! -LOL

Cheers mate! -Ray

[PigFish]

... I got so caught up in being silly, I forgot to say, "Nice find my friend..." -R

[ErikB]

A desktop humidor filled with Fonseca's no 1, in the cellar of the house I sold to a friend of mine. They turned out something special

[Ginseng]

You forgot to mention that you can make hats out of the foil that is left over on the roll... -LOL I think FoH needs an official egghead sub-forum! A proven technical obsession is required...

I think Wilkey is trying to say... I know what I want to do and do it for a reason, a reason that I understand fully, and if you choose to argue with me about it, you will be sorry!!! -LOL

Cheers mate! -Ray

Oh I try not to be quite so...clear?

And thanks, friend. It's always good to hear from you.

Wilkey

[LGC]

What if I wrap my wife in foil? Will that slow down her aging process?

I would wrap my boxes, but I hardly have any multiples of unbroken boxes. I smoke from all of my boxes. Also, my cigars sit in plastic coolers that get opened once or twice a month... not much air exchange.

[mk05]

What if I wrap my wife in foil? Will that slow down her aging process?

Only one way to find out

[Maplepie]

Pretty nice for the Bolivar Esps. They're already wrapped in foil, innit?

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[ogus]

I stumbled upon an extra bic lighter recently

[mk05]

On a side note... why do you foil wrap boxes?

For me, it's either foil wrap individuals or plastic bag the boxes with a small hole open.

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He has written about this numerous times, and even in greater detail than this reiteration that he was nice enough to rewrite for you.

[Maplepie]

He has written about this numerous times, and even in greater detail than this reiteration that he was nice enough to rewrite for you.

As a scientist, one never gets tired of re-iterating things for those who do not understand yet want to know.

In fact, one takes joys in those asking 'why' because it shows the nature of a curious [and therefore scientific] mind. Those are the minds that will lead the future.

Everyone starts somewhere.

[pbibby]

I for one am glad he rewrote it..... I'm newer to this board and have never seen him write about it. I'm glad he chose to share it again...

Thanks!

[Ginseng]

As a scientist, one never gets tired of re-iterating things for those who do not understand yet want to know.

In fact, one takes joys in those asking 'why' because it shows the nature of a curious [and therefore scientific] mind. Those are the minds that will lead the future.

Everyone starts somewhere.

Well said. This is just one of those topics that is continually renewing itself with each wave of fresh Habanophiles.

It is also true that reiteration provides one with the opportunity to re-examine prior conceptions and assumptions, lines of reasoning. I will admit that I find it occasionally tasking. But as you and pbibby say, it is often worthwhile, if not fulfilling, for self as well as readers.

Wilkey