MrGinger Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 That's about the worst beetle infection I've ever seen! I've always frozen customs when I receive them, but never regular production smokes. Care to share what the cigar was? Good thing you caught it when you did! This is worse (not mine)
Large215 Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 I pray ever time I go in to my 4 humidor and two wine cooler that I don't find any Beatles ... Sorry for you lost
Smallclub Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Even better than freezing: don't purchase from messy places… 1
Rushman Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 I've seen beetles on more than a few occasions but I've never seen anything like that. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
DrunkenMonkey Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 I pray ever time I go in to my 4 humidor and two wine cooler that I don't find any Beatles ... Sorry for you lost I love the Beatles 1
Lasabar Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Sprinkle their carcasses outside your humi to put all the others on notice that you don't mess around. 2
Habana Mike Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Sprinkle their carcasses outside your humi to put all the others on notice that you don't mess around. Kind of like that Planet of the Apes thing?
CUBANO Posted October 15, 2014 Author Posted October 15, 2014 Sprinkle their carcasses outside your humi to put all the others on notice that you don't mess around. I was thinking of putting them on my peanut butter and jelly sandwich, but your idea is better. LOL 1
Geo17pip Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 So when you freeze and then take out to put in the fridge for a day while still in a bag, do the cigars ever get condensation on them?
cigardude Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 That is crazy, thanks for sharing.....if I didn't freeze everything already those pictures would make me start!
PigFish Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 …makes me wonder. Monkfish taste like the food that they eat! -Piggy
leftimatic Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 I pray ever time I go in to my 4 humidor and two wine cooler that I don't find any Beatles ... Sorry for you lost Won't find George or John that's for sure. 1
MostlyHarmless Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 So when you freeze and then take out to put in the fridge for a day while still in a bag, do the cigars ever get condensation on them? You don't have to put them in the fridge. If they are in an airtight bag (as they should be), just take them out and leave them be till they are on roomtemperature again. The condensation from the warmer air will be on the cold surface (which is the outside of the bag). If later the cigars have roomtemperature again, you can take them out and there will be no condensation on them.
Duxnutz Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 I've seen beetles literally walking on the wooden cigar shelves when I was in a walk-in at a B & M in the States. "It's not a beetle!" Riiiiiight.
CanuckSARTech Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 This cigar is beyond smokable. The only thing I want to reiterate is freeze for more than 3 days, I would say 7 days just to be safe. Lots of protein in that cigar.(LOL) What's your temps? that's the big variance. Using the kill temps from that research paper, most people's fridge-freezer is no good for hitting the right bottomed-out temps. Likely, they have to go into a deep freezer. Gotta hit below -10 Celsius I believe it is. My deep freezer is -14 C, IIRC. 3 days fridge, 3 days freeze, 3 days fridge, back in coolerdor still in freezer bag, then observation monthly for 6 months before vacuum-bagging for long-term sleep.
CUBANO Posted November 4, 2014 Author Posted November 4, 2014 My freezer is 6F (-14C). The problem is I didn't freeze long enough to kill any larvae. Another thing is that they hatched a year after freezing. Didn't think the larvae stage was that long
CanuckSARTech Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 To me, that almost sounds like a new infestation / re-infestation, not dormant larvae.
PartagasIV Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 Even acclimated larvae will be dead at -10C in 24hr...try cranking down your freezer. My 6 out of 10 setting goes to -20C, which renders even acclimated larvae dead in one hour.
Mckucci Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 After I came across wood mites in a couple of my boxes, I now vacuum seal every box that comes in my door. I then freeze it for a minimum of 4 days.... Normally 5-7... I've never worried about 24 hours in the fridge, then into the freezer, back into the frige then 2 hours on the counter bla bla bla..... I take them right out of the freezer, remove the vacuum sealed bag, and leave them on the counter for 10 minutes, until they are at room temperature, I inspect them and they go into the humidor... I've done this with hundreds of boxes, and I've never had a wrapper split, burst or result in any damage.
Smallclub Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 My freezer is 6F (-14C). The problem is I didn't freeze long enough to kill any larvae. Another thing is that they hatched a year after freezing. Didn't think the larvae stage was that long It's the eggs that hatch, not the larvae. And the larvae are more easy to kill…
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