wookiemofo Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 2 Cigars from two different vendors, neither our host. All I know about the lighter one is it's LTB SEP 13. Is one suspicious?
CUBANO Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 They look good to me. Different Color wrapper doesn't mean fake
cigcars Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 I'm used to Juan Lopez being lighter in color like the one pictured ontop. But the bands both look pretty kosher though. I'm stumped! As always the proof will be in the smoking of them.
tmac77 Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 They look good to me. Different Color wrapper doesn't mean fake x2
LGC Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Again, we are talking about a hand made product coming from a country where the workers are underpaid. This is not an engineered product from Germany, Japan, etc.
wookiemofo Posted August 8, 2014 Author Posted August 8, 2014 Good, makes me feel better about the recent purchase! Thanks guys!
TypicalSituation Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Maybe it's the pic, but the embossing on the lower cigar looks much deeper on the band
gr8eman Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 Do they even make JL Knockoffs? I didn;t think they were that popular!
warren516 Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 From my readings and tests. Cubans cigars will stand up on their foot where non cubans fall over.
Habana Mike Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 From my readings and tests. Cubans cigars will stand up on their foot where non cubans fall over. Saw that. Actually I believe the rule is that fake Cubans will fall over. Not sure how good non-Cuban cigars are at maintaining equilibrium.
Maplepie Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 looks set to me. the bottom one may have had a slightly more humidification (80+ or so) some time for an extended period of time. But will have to feel it to decide that. then again, it is probably just tobacco from a different field If you really want to know, take a picture of the two feet. Fake cigars' feet are most of the time horrendous.
mk05 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 2 different boxes, 2 different shades. Nothing to be alarmed about.
1LegLance Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Watch any of the dozens of cigar documentaries on youtube and check out the part with the guy or gal standing at a big ol' table with stacks of cigars. That is the old "64 shades" thing. I never really believed there were that many shades even having seen it in person. However I watched for a solid 45min and the grader was excellent at matching sticks so they went into a box as well matched as possible. That said each box could range from claro to colorado and still be the same marca & vitola. As was said, look at the roll from the foot, that will tell you the quality of the blend and skill of the roller. However even that isn't a true metric as a real roller, using stolen bands/ribbons/SLB/tobacco could still make these at home. The good ones might even have a decent way to get a nice even cut on the end. Smoking is really the only way to tell, so light'em up and let us know.
Andy04 Posted September 27, 2014 Posted September 27, 2014 Saw that. Actually I believe the rule is that fake Cubans will fall over. Not sure how good non-Cuban cigars are at maintaining equilibrium. Why will a fake Cuban fall over?
Ginseng Posted September 27, 2014 Posted September 27, 2014 Why will a fake Cuban fall over? Because they're rolled on the thighs on non-virgins. Everyone knows a non-virgin thigh is incapable of forming a symmetrical cigar, thus, toppling. Only authentic Habanos are rolled on the thighs of virgins. Thus, balance. Wilkey 4
Habana Mike Posted September 27, 2014 Posted September 27, 2014 Why will a fake Cuban fall over? Well, along with what Wilkey stated I believe the presumption is that the filler cannot be rolled evenly, the wrapper won't be applied with the proper balance and the foot can not be cut exactly perpendicular except by specially trained torcedors and only then when working in an officially condoned factory.....
Ginseng Posted September 27, 2014 Posted September 27, 2014 Well, along with what Wilkey stated I believe the presumption is that the filler cannot be rolled evenly, the wrapper won't be applied with the proper balance and the foot can not be cut exactly perpendicular except by specially trained torcedors and only then when working in an officially condoned factory..... Yeahhhhhhh, I suppose that makes sense too, in a twisted sort of way. Wilkey
... Posted September 27, 2014 Posted September 27, 2014 I prefer Wilkey's explaination for undisclosed reasons
rcarlson Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 I've had JL 2s out of a 50 cab that were all over the map, color and rolling. Like the Bad News Bears of cigars. Can't say how they all made it into one box but they were all delicious.
LordAnubis Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 Buy from people you trust and stop worrying about fakes. That is all. 3
Pedro2486 Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 Because they're rolled on the thighs on non-virgins. Everyone knows a non-virgin thigh is incapable of forming a symmetrical cigar, thus, toppling. Only authentic Habanos are rolled on the thighs of virgins. Thus, balance. Wilkey So that's how those Diamond press cigars are made. On the thighs of promiscuous Dominicans
herc1119 Posted December 31, 2014 Posted December 31, 2014 I smoke these regularly. I think that is just a typical variation. These ain't cookie cutter.
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