Troels Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 I was referring to R&J. looking again, I wasn't enamored with R&J early 2000's with some exceptions, but was increasingly appalled 2004/5 on. When you open some 8-10,000 boxes a year you get a feel for what is happening. Take R&J E4. From one of the great hermoso/robusto to a shadow of its past come 2005. Woeful for the next 5 years (yes there is always an exception but generally...woeful). The love, know how, passion ....something had gone. It Roughly coincided with the closure of the R&J factory but it was increasingly happening prior. The R&J Short Churchill Release saw some brilliant cigars produced and then the quality faded away after about 12 months. Then in and around 2011/2012 I started seeing some stellar R&J stock. It has continued/strengthened since then. Yes there are still some dodgy offerings but overall it is a huge skew right on the quality (and flavour) curve. Today is a case in point. One of my last assignments was to go through the R&J Petit Corona. Without doubt the finest Petit Coronas of any marque this month and perhaps the best of the last 6 months. I am smoking one now (they captured my attention). Cherry/Toasted tobacco/ sweet Liquer. This is R&J at it's best. . Thanks for the insight - and great news :-)
Vortigan Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 A big fail from my POV. Like others seem to have done I only went in small with a 10 count,based primarily on shaky reviews.Bland and mostly underfilled crud is how I'd sum mine up.I don't think I'll be going there again,there are far better cigars in both marque and vitola. To my mind they just leapt on the PR train and were very unimaginative with everything about it right down to the name.Shame really because those 2012 E4's are a shining example of what the marque can/should be.Just one opinion among many though.
camachoman Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 I did pick up a 10 of the RyJ SC's and i have been enjoying them. Although I have not had the Petit Churchill, I too have enjoyed the recent samples I've smoked from my 2013 box of Short Churchills.
Deddyus Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 Among some of the best cigars (aroma/wrapper construction). R&J Exhibicion 4 2012 R&J Wide Churchill 2013 R&J Churchill 2013 R&J Petit Coronaa 2013 * the E4/Churchill/and PC are light years ahead of much the rubbish being produced for much of 2000 = 2011 I have found the only major disappointment to be the R&J Short Churchill that has gone backwards. I agree with you on the Churchills, found them 2012 onwards to be great thats for sure! I need to Explore the Shorts and Wide's more though, and maybe hive the Petits a miss heh
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