ATGroom Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Hi guys,A CubanCigarWebsite.com user contacted me the other day with an enquiry about a potentially dodgy seal, and after a bit of research, it's looking like Habanos changed the design of the hologram sometime mid last year. The basic design of the hologram remains the same, however, on the old one the "Habanos" text is blurry when looked at straight on, while the Aqui logo is fairly clear. On the new one, the "Habanos" text is clear, while the logo is blurry. Earliest confirmed sighting of the new style so far is JUN13. If anyone has boxes from the six months or so preceding this date, please post the codes and whether they have the new or old style so we can narrow down the exact changeover.Thanks,Alex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayceskinner Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I have a 25 box of Bolivar Petit Coronas MUR FEB 2013 with the old blurry logo and a 25 box of Upmann Petit Coronas UPE MAR 2013 also with the old logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliverdst Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Man, just now that I was almost counterfeiting them in perfection!!! LOL I love these little changes and the "inside" info. During the weekend I will check my boxes and let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmancbr Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I will def have to check my boxes when I get home tonight. I was going to finishing entering some of my sticks into the website anyway, this just gives me another excuse look at the collection tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyman1966 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Would'nt Habanos announce that they are changing/upgrading their seal? Why would it be a guessing game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliverdst Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 As it is to avoid counterfeiting they do not annouce at the beggining. I even can't remember if they announce anything about it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I just checked 4 of my 2013 boxes, and there's no apparent timeline. I have 2 boxes from March, one old style, one new, a new style from February, and an old style from August... Ahhh, Cuba... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor2118 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I just checked 4 of my 2013 boxes, and there's no apparent timeline. I have 2 boxes from March, one old style, one new, a new style from February, and an old style from August... Ahhh, Cuba... This looks like Cuba's usual practice.....due to shortages (within the country) old stock always seems to be fully used up, nothing is discarded. Naturally factories will run-out at different times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor2118 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Guyman1966, on 21 Mar 2014 - 03:58 AM, said:Guyman1966, on 21 Mar 2014 - 03:58 AM, said:Guyman1966, on 21 Mar 2014 - 03:58 AM, said:Would'nt Habanos announce that they are changing/upgrading their seal? Why would it be a guessing game? Obviously your new to "all things Cuban"..... If there is a policy on announcements.....the Policy is to "say nothing". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 The Habanos marketing department is like the spanish inquisition (I mean the monty python one not the real one)....No one expects them (and they never fail to deliver or is that deliver to fail) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyman1966 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Obviously your new to "all things Cuban"..... If there is a policy on announcements.....the Policy is to "say nothing". I did date a few Cuban girls before I was married... so not new to "all" things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbandz Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 New holo on RyJ Cazadores Abr 13...... also El Principe and Parti shorts sep 13 and may 13......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bclass1 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Hi guys, A CubanCigarWebsite.com user contacted me the other day with an enquiry about a potentially dodgy seal, and after a bit of research, it's looking like Habanos changed the design of the hologram sometime mid last year. The basic design of the hologram remains the same, however, on the old one the "Habanos" text is blurry when looked at straight on, while the Aqui logo is fairly clear. P3200112.JPG On the new one, the "Habanos" text is clear, while the logo is blurry. P3200107.JPG Earliest confirmed sighting of the new style so far is JUN13. If anyone has boxes from the six months or so preceding this date, please post the codes and whether they have the new or old style so we can narrow down the exact changeover. Thanks, Alex For those boxes that have the "new seal" (hologram portion) applied, check the seal for the microscopic barcode. It's located, in its entirety, in a few spots on the seal itself and also in halves (part of the barcode in one place and the remaining portion in another). It can be seen with the naked eye and made out if your look very closely. If the new hologram seal does have the inserted barcode's within the seal, then they should check out... Unless, counterfeiters have already made attempts to duplicate this newer form of security.. But I seriously doubt it, it's almost impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 For those boxes that have the "new seal" (hologram portion) applied, check the seal for the microscopic barcode. It's located, in its entirety, in a few spots on the seal itself and also in halves (part of the barcode in one place and the remaining portion in another). It can be seen with the naked eye and made out if your look very closely. If the new hologram seal does have the inserted barcode's within the seal, then they should check out... Unless, counterfeiters have already made attempts to duplicate this newer form of security.. But I seriously doubt it, it's almost impossible. Improbable, not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangolf18 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Amazing that on a product so widely counterfeited, HSA doesn't work harder to regiment things. Baffles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCgarman Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 As long as you trust your vendors to deliver you the genuine product, things like this really are a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor2118 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Bclass1, on 21 Mar 2014 - 09:17 AM, said:For those boxes that have the "new seal" (hologram portion) applied, check the seal for the microscopic barcode. It's located, in its entirety, in a few spots on the seal itself and also in halves (part of the barcode in one place and the remaining portion in another). It can be seen with the naked eye and made out if your look very closely. See here: http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/info-packaging.aspx#Union_and_Warranty_Seals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bclass1 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Improbable, not impossible. I did say "almost" there Fuzz.. C'mon now.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bclass1 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Thanks for adding the link Trevor.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Alex, New Style on a SLB box of BBF's LAR ABR 13. Hope this helps, and thanks for all the great work you and Trevor do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallclub Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Earliest confirmed sighting of the new style so far is JUN13. If anyone has boxes from the six months or so preceding this date, please post the codes and whether they have the new or old style so we can narrow down the exact changeover. AME MAY 13 PL Montecarlos with the new style. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliverchang514 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 As long as you trust your vendors to deliver you the genuine product, things like this really are a moot point. +1 to this. If I'm getting it from Rob or Ravi I'm good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallclub Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 As long as you trust your vendors to deliver you the genuine product, things like this really are a moot point. Giving a help to the person who maintains CigarWebsite.com is a moot point? Very nice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainQuintero Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I'm guessing this is something more for the benefit of retailers, so they can check authenticity of their stock? I can't see tourists/Craigslist buyers in the US/mexico checking authenticity to this level of detail. If they aren't checking for glass top boxes they won't be checking for hologram details! Also regular smokers will have trusted vendors they buy from and know authenticity is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiVirus Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I have the new style on a box of Partagas Aristocrats ORQ MAY 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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