pbibby Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 I'm working through my second box of Boli PC this winter and the first was Colorado Maduro, the current box is Claro. Both equally good. This exactly. Claro for me.
Bclass1 Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 I'm with the majority here as well. To me, there's something majestic about the specific color of a Colorado Claro wrapper on a Cohiba..I have a really nice box of CoRo that have the oilyish golden brown hue almost.. They just look and smell very attracting. That's ideal for me..
Orion21 Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 The best cigars I have smoked were claro to colorado claro. My experience has been that the darker the wrapper the more difficult it is to keep it lit. The OR BHK were claro and so are the book release cigars. Obviously blend has an enormous part to play in the quality of a cigar. However, I have noticed that the wrappers HSA seems to lean towards on the super high end sticks are very thin and claro to colorado claro in color. This doesn't mean I haven't smoked great cigars on the darker side of colorado maduro, but if I had my choice I would pick a nice velvety claro - colorado claro wrapper with a wonderful sheen over anything else.
Hohenthal Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 The best cigars I have smoked were claro to colorado claro. My experience has been that the darker the wrapper the more difficult it is to keep it lit. The OR BHK were claro and so are the book release cigars. Obviously blend has an enormous part to play in the quality of a cigar. However, I have noticed that the wrappers HSA seems to lean towards on the super high end sticks are very thin and claro to colorado claro in color. This doesn't mean I haven't smoked great cigars on the darker side of colorado maduro, but if I had my choice I would pick a nice velvety claro - colorado claro wrapper with a wonderful sheen over anything else. Could not say it better!
garbandz Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Like Orion , I prefer a colorado claro wrapper,,,,,,,,darker than claro,lighter than colorado with no reddish hue,or an oily mottled buckskin and colorado maduro wrapper. I have found these to be my favorites,and would pick these first choice...... I do not see these often....
dangolf18 Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Well if the maduro is done right (eg. Cohiba EL 2006, Montecristo Robusto EL, 1966, Maduro 5 lineup), it's my favorite. I'm not partial to any of the others in particular, though colorado wrappers are most aesthetically pleasing to my eyes.
cigaraholic Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Give me a maduro Monte 1 or Especial all day long.
Lotusguy Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Voted for Colorado. That applies to pretty much every one of my go to cigars.
Wil Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Depends on the cigar. For example, the best PSD4s I've had have been claro to Colorado claro, the best des dieux I've had have been double claro, the best hdm petit robustos I've had have been Colorado maduro. Think it's more psychological than anything, for me anyway.
dangolf18 Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 The wrapper makes up little of the flavor (Hamlet said its 5-10% of flavor.) Good filler is what matters, at least in my opinion. 2
Bclass1 Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 The wrapper makes up little of the flavor (Hamlet said its 5-10% of flavor.) Good filler is what matters, at least in my opinion. I agree.. But I like a nice looking cigar as well..
Knilas Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 I like em dark n yummy! Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk
El Presidente Posted March 6, 2014 Author Posted March 6, 2014 The wrapper makes up little of the flavor (Hamlet said its 5-10% of flavor.) Good filler is what matters, at least in my opinion. As I said to Hammy years ago, put a Genios wrapper on a Siglo VI and tell me the same What occurs is the Siglo VI tastes like a Genios. The Genios tastes like a Siglo VI Hamlet comes from the angle that the wrapper influence is proportional to the tobacco as a rough % of the cigar. I come from the angle that if you change the profile of the cigar then it is a significant influence. In the case of the Siglo VI and Genios experiment...total albeit that is an extreme wrapper change. So at Jose's we were preparing a dish of Ropa Vieja. We were having it simply with a side dish of Moros y Cristianos. We tasted the Ropa Vieja from the pot and then I put in a small splash of Hennessy. The core Ropa Vieja flavour was there but lifted with the Hennessy. Hennessy was only say 1% of the dish but to me changed it completely. We all agreed on the change of flavour but disagreed on the subjective amount of change. Is any altering of flavour a 100% change or is it a measurable incremental change on the core flavour? Intelligent people hold differing opinions. Many an hour we have spent discussing this at Jose's place. Long afternoons/evenings overlooking the river and drinking fine rum and strong coffee. great times
Habanos2000 Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 Personally, I prefer either Colorado Maduro or Colorado Claro. Just found this pic: Using this chart, I would say Party SD4 in Colorado Maduro! But I do prefer anything from Colorado through Maduro.
mk05 Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 I love my claro claros. If I recall...incorrectly (or rather incompletely), NC makers define oscuro differently than Cubans.
polarbear Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 The best Monte 4's I've ever smoked all had a Colorado Maduro-ish shade wrapper That being said, I was gifted an aged Partigas 898 that was so light the wrapper was almost a Double Claro shade but it smoked wonderfully
IanMcLean68 Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 I had a box of Monte 2 back around 2008 with very dark oily Maduro wrappers that were simply divine. I have not seen Monte 2 with this colour wrapper since. Ian
anacostiakat Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 Claro but anything between that and Colorado is fine by me.
BigWill Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 I'm voting for the maduro. The Colorado maduro is good too, so is the oscuro. I think I like them all. 1
StingMeadery Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 I have found all my favorites have been Claro to Colorado. I love the light coloured oily or satin textured wrappers. I've had my share of tasty Colorado-maduro sticks tho! I agree Claro to Colorado hits my sweet spot as a go to stick.
StingMeadery Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 I had a box of Monte 2 back around 2008 with very dark oily Maduro wrappers that were simply divine. I have not seen Monte 2 with this colour wrapper since. Ian One of my friends just showed me a near full box of this exact same Monty 2 with the dark Madiuro wrapper he is storing for a friend in his humidor, They still look absolutely stunning but must have glowed with oil when they were fresh
hebbe72 Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 A really oily colorado maduro wrapper on a Party PCE which is my everyday cigar gets me going...
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