brutusthebuckeye Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Seriously? Please, listen to Ken and let a good bottle of Bollinger knock your socks off. Yes...Seriously!!....If I brought Bollinger to a get together with my friends...it would get passed around at end of night,drinking straight from bottle after all the Bud Light and Busch Lite is gone....
brutusthebuckeye Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 ^ This And in Texas, even those two events are questionably accepted. LMAO...In Texas they think the Marlboro mans a pu$$y!!!!
DrunkenMonkey Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 I wonder if a 'real man' would be insecure enough to listen when told that a wine he finds delicious is feminine.
Jeremy Festa Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 ^ This And in Texas, even those two events are questionably accepted. Unless of course you sabre a magnum good and proper!
Skyfall Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Unless of course you sabre a magnum good and proper! Nobody would choose champagne over whiskey for any reason or occasion down here. It would be irrational and dangerous. And honestly.....why would you want to???? Most champagne consumption in the Southern US is done by women, mixed with orange juice and at brunch time. That is a scientific fact.
NastyPirate Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 If champagne is a feminine wine then spank my ass and call me Shirley! I tend to go for big reds with cigars, lounging out under the stars after an awesome barbeque, hmmmm..........God I hate the winter!! My favourites at the moment:- Waxed Bat El Campeador El Bombero President XV Black Stump Also picked up some bargain Amarones and Barolos recently that should go well. As for spirits, I'm on Jonny Drum Private Stock at the moment, can't go wrong! I, too, go for wine with cigars. I prefer (almost exclusively) the big reds from Italy. The only exception to that would be a French Pommeral. Or almost any aged Rum.....
Jeremy Festa Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Nobody would choose champagne over whiskey for any reason or occasion down here. It would be irrational and dangerous. And honestly.....why would you want to???? For the fizz mon frere! For the fizz!
Skyfall Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 For the fizz mon frere! For the fizz! I get my fizz when I take my alka seltzer to cure my hangover!
Jeremy Festa Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 I get my fizz when I take my alka seltzer to cure my hangover! Haha Look, I don't think I was making myself clear. You open a bloody big arse bottle with a bloody big sword! How is this not acceptable anywhere?
Skyfall Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 I do actually have 2 of these sitting in my cellar.
Jeremy Festa Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 I do actually have 2 of these sitting in my cellar. Of course! Good man!
Ken Gargett Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 I wonder if a 'real man' would be insecure enough to listen when told that a wine he finds delicious is feminine. the 'feminine' concept or wine is interesting. a few writers are vehmently opposed to the gender idea for wine and i sort of understand that. but it has never really bothered me. some fantastic wines that might be seen as 'feminine'. but for me, a great champers not in that category.
mgravito Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Count me in the group that doesn't like mixing wine and cigars. I love wine and I love cigars separately. I just feel like they compete with my taste buds and I can't appreciate either. I do love rum, bourbon and scotch with my cigars. I feel the compliment each other.
DrunkenMonkey Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 the 'feminine' concept or wine is interesting. a few writers are vehmently opposed to the gender idea for wine and i sort of understand that. but it has never really bothered me. some fantastic wines that might be seen as 'feminine'. but for me, a great champers not in that category. I agree. But this isn't so much about the way the wines taste. It's more of a 'real men drive this sort of car, and if you don't you're a sissy' thing. I think real men finished with that sort of thing around junior high school. 1
Colt45 Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 i really don't think they work well. perhaps richer wines like amarones. and may be lighter reds like gamay based wines. KG, I think you're aware that I also don't feel reds and cigars really go together all that well. Your thought on gamay is interesting - though I've not actually tried the combo, this is the type of wine, in my mind at least, I think would be destroyed by cigar smoke. Though lighter in body, and typically more acid based in structure, I've found that traditionally made gamays have enough light (but not soft) tannins which would be brought out by the smoke, really killing the core. I may have to try for myself some time. Also interesting to me is the mention of a few of the Italians - the typically tannic nature of many makes them the last I would think of while smoking. It goes to show how subjective these things can be. As for fizz - breakfast, lunch, and dinner
Ken Gargett Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 KG, I think you're aware that I also don't feel reds and cigars really go together all that well. Your thought on gamay is interesting - though I've not actually tried the combo, this is the type of wine, in my mind at least, I think would be destroyed by cigar smoke. Though lighter in body, and typically more acid based in structure, I've found that traditionally made gamays have enough light (but not soft) tannins which would be brought out by the smoke, really killing the core. I may have to try for myself some time. Also interesting to me is the mention of a few of the Italians - the typically tannic nature of many makes them the last I would think of while smoking. It goes to show how subjective these things can be. As for fizz - breakfast, lunch, and dinner agree re the italians. gamay more a suggestion for going to wines with less obvious tannin. personally, unlikely to drink much of it.
fozzie Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 I agree. But this isn't so much about the way the wines taste. It's more of a 'real men drive this sort of car, and if you don't you're a sissy' thing. I think real men finished with that sort of thing around junior high school. Totally agree. Surely its more manly to laugh in the face of danger and sup your champers with scant regard for the threats of violence and ritual humiliation, than to give in to the nay-sayers and bullies! Be more goat and less sheep!! Let us know how you get on.............
fozzie Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 agree re the italians. gamay more a suggestion for going to wines with less obvious tannin. personally, unlikely to drink much of it. Might give it a try with some Beaujolais Nouveau from last year and see how it works.
brutusthebuckeye Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 I agree. But this isn't so much about the way the wines taste. It's more of a 'real men drive this sort of car, and if you don't you're a sissy' thing. I think real men finished with that sort of thing around junior high school. Hey Drunken Monkey...When ur hangin out with all them Steeler fans wearin the ol Jack Lambert throwback jearsy I bet the first thing you do is pull out the bottle of Champers and say"let's get crazy"
DrunkenMonkey Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Hey Drunken Monkey...When ur hangin out with all them Steeler fans wearin the ol Jack Lambert throwback jearsy I bet the first thing you do is pull out the bottle of Champers and say"let's get crazy" I drink champagne whenever I can. Sure, I'll drink champagne and watch football. Beer more often, but I like wine, and I like champagne.
sengjc Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 To me, table wine and cigars don't generally mix well together - it comes across as a clash of flavour profiles.
PapaDisco Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 I drink alcohol with cigars more as a palate cleanser more than as some sort of flavor coordination, and so I tend towards the strong stuff and away from the wines. Single malt scotch, bourbon, or mixed somethings with vodka.
LGC Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Tannins and cigars don't mix. I will only do late harvest wines, ports, and other dessert wines.
Smallclub Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Might give it a try with some Beaujolais Nouveau from last year and see how it works. Beaujolais Nouveau is generally very acidic, it would kill every habanos that's not full bodied…
Smallclub Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Tannins and cigars don't mix. I will only do late harvest wines, ports, and other dessert wines. +1. My favorites are Côtes-de-Gascogne (Uby, Tariquet).
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