El Presidente Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 To the great minds of the board One of the questions that Di an I get asked by those new to Cuban Cigars is to suggest a sampler that represents the diversity of flavour's representative of Cuban Cigars. So if I were to do say a 12 cigar sampler ...a "Quintessential Cuban Sampler" what would you include. Keep in mind it should encompass: A variety of sizes A kaleidoscope of flavour profiles Regular Production. Have a think and list your 12
Skyfall Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 In no order: Monte 2 Partagas Short (or D4) Cohiba Robusto HDM Epi 2 Boli PC RASS HU Mag 50 (or 46) QDO Corona VR Famosos (Or Unicos) R&J Short Church or WC ERDM CS Dip 2
jacktarnold Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Bolivar PC Cohiba Siglo VI Cohiba Lancero Montecristo N 2 Partagas 898 H Upmann Sir Winston Trinidad Reyes Juan Lopez #2 Hoyo de Monterey #1 Punch Punch Ramon Allones Specially Select RyJ Short Churchill
Skyfall Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 In no order: Monte 2 Partagas Short (or D4) Cohiba Robusto HDM Epi 2 Boli PC RASS HU Mag 50 (or 46) QDO Corona VR Famosos (Or Unicos) R&J Short Church or WC ERDM CS Dip 2 ^ I'd buy this!!!! Hell, I have bought this repeatedly!!!!
tmac77 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Hard to pick only 12 but for the sake of diversity in Vitola and Marca here is my 12: Partagas Short Monte 4 CORO RASS Upmann Mag 46 Quai d'orsay Corona HDM Des Dieux BBF Upmann #2 VR Unicos Monte Especial #1 Punch DC
Skyfall Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I'd make it a 15 cigar sampler, and add the 13. Trini Reyes x2 and a second Partagas short to my original list
PigFish Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 … just about every cigar in the catalogue is a beginner cigar in my book. They have killed the connoisseur selection, both literally and figuratively. The Tabacuba answer; sell everyone a robusto or a second rate expensive cigar and tell them it is good based on the price that they are asking for it! This plan has worked in the cigar world thus far, so why not beginners? …Oh, I forgot, the plan really isn't working!!! Tabacuba's pricing model and model reduction plan has ruined the entry cigar market. Government taxation has not helped either!! The schmucks should reintroduce a marevas for every line! That would be a start. Sorry to be no help! -the Pig
El Presidente Posted October 31, 2013 Author Posted October 31, 2013 Thank you for your contribution Piggy
Sutton Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Pretty much agree with everyone else: Cohiba Robusto PSD4 RASS RyJ Wide Boli PC PLPC SLR A QDO corona Parti lusi Sir Winston Monte 2 VR Unicos
Smallclub Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Upmann Connoisseur No.1 Juan Lopez No.2 SLR Serie A or Regios Partagas D4 Partagas Lusitania Montecristo Petit Edmundo RyJ Exhibicion No.4 Hoyo de Monterrey: Epicure 2 or Epicure de Luxe RA Superiores or Gigantes Trinidad Reyes Bolivar pc (or Royal Corona) Cohiba Robusto The Quai d'Orsay line is too subtle for a beginner, IMHO.
Habanos2000 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 1. Cohiba Esplendido 2. Cohiba robusto 3. Boli RC 4. Bolivar PC 5. Monte Edmundo 6. Monte #2 7. Party SD4 8. Partagas 898 9. Upmann Mag 46 10. Upmann Mag 50 11. Hoyo DC 12. RASS
srbbones Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I tend to think a beginner might get palate overload with 12 different sticks. I would make it 3 each of 4 different sticks: Monte 2 Boli PC Cohiba Robusto Trini Reyes Tell them to smoke the 3 over a one week period, taking notes, and rating how much they like them
Ssmith114 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Great lists! But I can't believe no one mentioned a PLPC!
riazp Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I'm going to suggest options in each size so when it comes to avail you can pick and choose Partagas Short or RASCC ERDM Choix Supreme Rass or PSD4 Hoyo Epi 2 Upmann Mag 46 or SLR serie a Monte 2 or Upmann 2 Bolivar Petit Corona or Monte 4 Partagas Lusitania Upmann Sir Winnie Cohiba Sig 3 or Party 898 Qdo Imperiales And last one, you can add whatever EL or RE you want to give them a tase of the double banders Cheers!
dangolf18 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 1.) Montecristo No.4 2.) Partagas Serie D No.4 3.) QDO Coronas 4.) Cohiba Siglo II 5.) HDM No.2 6.) Punch Punch 7.) SLR Serie A 8.) HU Magnum 46 9.) Bolivar RC 10.) RyJ SC 11.) RASS 12.) Party Short
stogieluver Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Rob, do you just wake up every day and pinch yourself? "Let's see...what shall I do today for my job? Oh, I think I'll design a sampler of fine Cuban cigars while smoking fine Cuban cigars while selling fine Cuban cigars while associating with some fine Cuban cigar smokers who are great friends". You make me sick.
oliverdst Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I think I will not help a lot but I would consider a beginner sampler with no more than 6 different cigars (3 of each). With 18 cigars (good amount) and with 6 diferent brands/models it would be easier to the newbie compare them. With 12 different (having 1 or 2 of each) probably he would get lost.
bresdogsr Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 As a beginner, I think I would buy any of the above samplers. I do like the idea of some duplication e.g. pairs x6 or pairs x7 + a RE/LE.
bresdogsr Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I think I will not help a lot but I would consider a beginner sampler with no more than 6 different cigars (3 of each). With 18 cigars (good amount) and with 6 diferent brands/models it would be easier to the newbie compare them. With 12 different (having 1 or 2 of each) probably he would get lost. Or what he said 6x3 would work as well.
mjj100025552775 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Since I am really new to CC, I would love to express my humble opinion:) Section 1: Robusto and PC, very popular vitola to newbies 1) CoRo 2) Partagas Serie D No.4 3) HDM #2 4) Siglo 2 5) Monte 4 Section 2: U can't go wrong with torpedos/Corona Gorda 6) HU Magnum 46 7) Monte 2 8) BBF Section 3: long smoking experience 9) RYJ Churchill 10) Cohiba Esplendido Section 4: the magic from Habanos, 11) A good EL or Behike I have a lot of cohibas in.. it's Habanos' flagship brand after all... Thanks, Howard
TomBolivar Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 My suggestion... 1.) MC no. 2 - Just and all around classic pyramid 2.) RASS - Robusto with loads of flavor 3.) BBF - Great after a heavy dinner 4.) HDM E no 2 - Something more delicate 5.) PLPC - Great with a latte 6.) JL No. 2 - just a cigar I really enjoy at anytime of the day 7.) Par Lusitania - Loads of Partagas flavor, IMO best DC 8.) Fonseca No 1 - Great when you want something different 9.) Cohiba Lancero - To me it really represents what Habanos are all about 10.) RJ Short Churchill - If they're "on" you get great RJ flavor 11.) SLR A - My favorite CG 12.) RJ Caz - Demonstrates potential strength in cigars
Jeremy Festa Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 If I were in your shoes. I would produce a 12 cigar blind sampler set. Numbered 1 to 12. You send this 'Sampler Set' out with a little FOH/Czar Welcome Card. A little blurb on the back on how to store, cut and light a cigar. Maybe something saying 'what to look out for' when smoking, tasting, enjoying a cigar. On the back, numbered 1 through12, are little boxes to tick for ratings (maybe 1 to 5) and a couple lines to make some notes on the flavour profile. Upon completion, they (the beginner, me included) sends the card back. You may, or may not, provide some feedback, of what each cigar was, the flavour profile and the rest is history. I would like one of these sampler packs. Word, Jeremy
fookite Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I think an important point to get across to a beginner is the importance of age to a cigar. I mean, it's a pretty hard sell to tell a noob that the RASS is a fantastic stick, but he needs to smoke one and forget about the rest of the box for a year or more. What I would do is pick three staple cigars: for each, include a in a fresh one, one with a year or two on it and one with 3+, years. That's nine sticks, call it 150% of the six cigar aged sampler, so ~$165. For a $200 price point, you could toss in a BHK or LE or something else fancy and make it an even ten sticks.
PigFish Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Thank you for your contribution Piggy … well I was going to suggest that you send every new member to the forum 10 free cigars!!! But, I thought it might put you in a tough spot. That is why I did not post it!!! -LOL Love ya' mate! -R
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