polarbear Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Can someone explain the finer details of Factory Codes to me please? I've read a few threads here over the years about how certain factories manage to be more consistant when it comes to certain Marcas but I've also read (on Trevors website) that the factory codes constantly change. Is this the case? If it isnt, can someone give me a list of the Factory Codes and the factory they corrispond to? Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stogieluver Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I think I've read that the codes are changed frequently and are known to only a few Habanos insiders. Don't recall the reason for this. I'm sure you'll get an answer to your question, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simtur88 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Hi guys, I'm just taking a wild stab in the dark here: If the codes do change frequently (I'm not sure if they do or don't), then I'd guess it's to prevent price differences between the same product - demand for cigars being produced by the factory with a better reputation would hike up the price, and demand for those producing rubbish would force those prices down, hence creating a major discrepancy in the demand for certain boxes of cigars of the same brand and model. Again, just my guess as to why they'd change often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CaptainQuintero Posted September 23, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2013 Factory Codes from 2000 - 2002: LOC Carlos Balino – El Rey Del Mundo EOG, EAR - La Corona ECA - H. Upmann RPO - Héroes de Moncada OSU - Partagas PEL - Romeo y Julieta 2000: LOME, LQME; 2001: CLE El Laguito ARA - Jose Cano LRL, SLA - Pinar Del Rio PUL, URE, UPA, IESC - Holguin URL, LES, SUA, CPV, RSE, PUC - Villa Clara VCR, DUO, REC, PAS, USP, APE, LUL, CLO, SRA, OVU - Sancti Spiritus CAV, ALV, SSU, VEL, SOL, PAR, SCO, LPE - La Habana EOP, LAC, SEL, PUV - Cienfuergos ACS, PLO - Granma OLA - Santiago de Cuba Factory codes from 2003 to present: Francisco Pérez Germán (Partagas) GKI - 2003 SVF - 2005 POS - 2006, 2007 TEB - 2007, 2008 LRE - 2009 POL - 2010 OGA - 2011 Jose Marti (H.Upmann) LLN – 2003 -05-04 FIN - 2005 ROA - 2006 USE - 2007 - 08 MOA - 2009 MGA - 2010 SUB - 2011 Briones Montoto (Romeo y Julieta) KMM - 2003 JNL - 2004 El Laguito CLE 2001-03 MKO – 2003-04 PFY - 2005 PLM - 2006 MEL - 2007-08 LBT - 2009 TEU - 2010/2011 MES - 2011 BTO - 2012 Miguel Fernandes Roig (La Corona) EAR - 2003 FJN - 2005 OEB - 2006 EMA - 2007-08 OPM - 2009 URG -2010 MLO -2011 Francisco Donantien, Pinar del Rio: OIK - 2004 IKR - 2005 STL - 2006-07 OUR - 2008-09 OUS - 2009-10 AGR - 2010-11 ---------------------------------------------------------- DATE CODES 1985-1998 N I V E L A C U S O 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 FACTORY CODES HAVANA FACTORIES BM - BRIONES MONTOTO (ROMEO Y JULIETA) CB - CARLOS BALINO (EL REY DE MUNDO) EH/EI - HABANERO EL/EI - LAGUITO (COHIBA) FL/PL/PO - (POR LARRANAGA) FPG - FRANCISCO PEREZ GERMAN (PARTAGAS) FR - MIGUEL FERNANDEZ ROIG (LA CORONA) HM - HEROES DE MONCADA (JOSE PIEDRA) JM - JOSE MARTI (H.UPMANN) PROVICIAL FACTORIES CFG - CIENFUEGOS CFGS - CIENFUEGOS - QUINTERO Y HNO. FD/PR - FRANCISCO DONANTIEN SLR - LAS MAMBISAS SS - SANCTI SPIRITUS TTH - HOLGUIN VC - VILLA CALRA VSC - VILLA SANTA CLARA DATE CODES 1999 N E T A G I D O C U 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 DATE CODES STARTING 05/99 EPOO - 05/99 ESOO - 06/99 EUOO - 07/99 EAOO - 08/99 EOOO - 09/99 LEOO - 10/99 LLOO - 11/99 LROO - 12/99 CCES 06/99 CCEU 07/99 CCAE 08/99 CCNU 10/99 CCNN 11/99 CCNT 12/99 ELOO 01/2000 1999 FACTORY CODES CIUDAD DE HABANA EGD - CARLOS BALINO (EL REY DEL MUNDO) EDC - BRIONES MONTOTO (ROMEO Y JULIETA) EUN - EL LAGUITO EAT - FRANCISCO PEREZ GERMAN (PARTAGAS) EOG - MIGUEL FERNANDEZ ROIG (LA CORONA) ENI - HEROES DE MONCADA ECA - JOSE MARTI (H.UPMANN) EEO - JUAN CANO SAINZ (POR LARRANAGA) LA HABANA PROVINCE TEN - ARTEMISA I TEC - ARTEMISA II TAE - GUIRA I DATE CODES 2000 ENE - JANUARY FEB - FEBRUARY MAR - MARCH APR - APRIL MAY - MAY JUN - JUNE JUL - JULY AGO - AUGUST SET - SEPTEMBER OCT - OCTOBER NOV - NOVEMBER DIC - DECEMBER 2000 FACTORY CODES EOG/EAR - LA CORONA ECA - H.UPMANN RPO - HEROES DE MONCADA OSU - PARTAGAS PEL - BRIONES (ROMEO Y JULIETA) CLE - EL LAGUITO (COHIBA) ARA - JOSE CANO LRL/SLA - PINAR DEL RIO PUL/URE/UPA/IESC - HOLGUIN URL/LES/SUA/CPV/RSE/PUC - VILLA CLARA VCR/REC/PAS/USP/APE/CLO/OVU - SANCTI ESPIRITU CAV/SSU/VEL/SOL/PAR/SCO/LPE - LA HABANA LAC/SELPUV - CIENFUEGOS ACS/PLO - GRANMA DATE CODES 2000 - 2003 LOC - CARLOS BALINO (EL REY DEL MUNDO) EOG/EAR - LA CORONA ECA - H.UPMANN RPO - HEROES DE MONCADA OSU - PARTAGAS PEL - BRIONES MONTOTO 2000 - LOME,LQME - EL LAGUITO 2001 - CLE - EL LAGUITO ARA - JOSE CANO LRL/SLA - PINAR DEL RIO PUL/URE/UPA/IESC - HOLGUIN URL/LES/SUA/CPV/RSE/PUC - VILLA CLARA VCR/RES/PAS/USP/APE/LUL/CLO/SRA - SANCTI ESPIRITU CAV/ALV/SSU/VEL/SOL/PAR/SCO/LPE - LA HABANA LAC/SEL/PUV - CIENFUEGOS NEW FACTORY CODES 2003 GKI - FRANCISCO PEREZ GEMAN (PARTAGAS) LLN - JOSE MARTI (H.UPMANN) KMM - BRIONES MONTOTO (ROMEO Y JULIETA) MKO - EL LAGUITO (COHIBA) FRH - MIGUEL FERNANDEZ ROIG (LA CORONA) 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallclub Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 You guys are 10 years late. Deciphering/chasing box codes is no longer worth it today, at least concerning 90% of the production… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainQuintero Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 x2 you are far better off just choosing boxes yourself or having someone you trust do it for you. It's essentially a novelty if you'd like to know where your box came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor2118 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 You guys are 10 years late. Deciphering/chasing box codes is no longer worth it today, at least concerning 90% of the production… Totally correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Festa Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 And there you have it. Always wondered. Good to know! Cheers boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polarbear Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 Factory Codes from 2000 - 2002: Thanks CQ, thi is exactly what i was looking for I was looking at a couple of aged boxes (10+ years) and was curious of where they were made 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallclub Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 it's prob not gonna be from the same roller anyways. Of course not. In your cab of Siglos you can get the work of 25 different rollers… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallclub Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 That's because the Marcia isn't determined until the bands go on this is an urban legend that I hear since the early 2000s. That does not mean it never happened, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbone Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 That's because the Marcia isn't determined until the bands go on This one I could believe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habanos2000 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 That's because the Marcia isn't determined until the bands go on This one I could believe... Ain't that the truth! Our blind tasting could be used as evidence for such urban myths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutchezar Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Hi, not sure the topic is right, but i have difficulty reading marking on Cohiba box - JM 0TUC or JM 0IUC, the letter "T" is not full, should it be read as "I"? Not sure whether there is T letter on code or leaked ink? Is it possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubba Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Ain't that the truth! Our blind tasting could be used as evidence for such urban myths. Great point!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonVivant Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Box codes are not a Gospel, it is just a guide, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmokealot Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Just wondering.... Is there an update to this list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSmoker Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 ESO NOV 13 Cohiba box factory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallclub Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 ESO NOV 13 Cohiba box factory? Fabrica Porfirio Bolero y Calamares, in Pueblo Fantasma. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk05 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 ESO NOV 13 Cohiba box factory? Unknown as of now Deem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charltonc Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I think I saw bcg and psd4 with the eso code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I have Monte Petit Edmundo ESO 14's 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1LegLance Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Oh how I remember NIVEL ACUSO...and the fun of figuring out the dates. And then the passion with which we would hunt down the Havana factory of preference. Now I just ask for more of what ever I am enjoying with the hope that the batch of tobacco will be the same....but understanding that boxing happens at the END of the process and long after rolling sometimes. A quick jump around Youtube will show plenty of videos of the color grading process that results in all your cigars getting mixed up as to which roller made them. Then you take into account that shipping OUT on a certain day (when they are boxed) can mean pulling from a variety of drawers of cigar wheels. Still kind of fun that we have any sort of code to freak out over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drockspang1 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Here's how I believe codes are an important guide. When a certain code is known to be producing above avg cigars(not a certainty, but raising the odds of procuring a decent box) from a particular time period, then it is worth it to seek out that particular code & date stamp. For example: '12 BTO Cohiba, ''13 BAM Punch Punch & '13 UPE Upmann are a few codes that have been discussed on the boards and that I have had success with personally. But I wouldn't go blind into any of these codes with current '14 production, because the variables that made these codes a success in the past, have probably changed by now? Hope that helps? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonVivant Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 You guys are 10 years late. Deciphering/chasing box codes is no longer worth it today, at least concerning 90% of the production… i would say 99%, but not arguing Just looking for a 0.000000001 of production, approximate of course 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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