Well pardon us

[OZCUBAN]

Hi all

Found this article in the Age newspaper the other day,it was a piece about some of the good bars etc in Melbourne

The piece is about the Siglo bar /supper club ,which by the way is excellent ,but as a cigar smoker I get infuriated when I read smart arse comments ,I guess it's the way of the world at the minute

Here is excerpt from whole article

Siglo

Level 2/161 Spring Street, city.

Tues-Fri, 5pm-3am; Sat-Mon, 8pm-3am

Push through the heavy door of the Melbourne Supper Club, climb the set of stairs, look around, then make your way up another set of stairs - oh, and another - and you'll be catching your breath at this delightful rooftop bar. Cigar smokers stink up the place, but it's big enough to escape the fumes and enjoy the views over Parliament House. It's almost an all-weather venue thanks to a new retractable roof, though looking up at the old Princess Theatre artwork is one of the pleasures of this splendid setting.

Hidden rating ★★★★

Cheers OZ

[canadianbeaver]

So wait. The joint is called "Siglo", a roof top bar, but you are catching your breath from climbing up the stairs. And then bellyaching about cigar smokers.

[Tan1801]

Yep, comments like those really grind my gears.

I would love to offer an alternative. They can have the rooftop. All I ask in return is we go back to being able to smoke in supper club haha (yea right...like that's going to happen).

[Coolio]

This writer is most likely a vegetarian and would complain about the smell of a juicy rib eye fillet as it grills to perfection in the kitchen! I've been to this bar a couple of times and you take your own to smoke as the stogies there are expensive, although appear to be well looked after. It was damn busy when I was last there on a Sat night. And smoky!

[PigFish]

... what can I say? Cigar smokers like to share!!!

I wonder how he rates the light reflected off his own face! Perhaps the smoking public thinks it is redolent of rump of a rhinoceros, yet he is willing to make it public!!!

-Piggy

[OZCUBAN]

... what can I say? Cigar smokers like to share!!!

I wonder how he rates the light reflected off his own face! Perhaps the smoking public thinks it is redolent of rump of a rhinoceros, yet he is willing to make it public!!!

-Piggy

[OZCUBAN]

This was the photo that accompanied the article ,not essentially representative of the authors looks I would imagine

OZ

[PigFish]

This was the photo that accompanied the article ,not essentially representative of the authors looks I would imagine

OZ

...by the looks of her taste in interior decor I would say, "Follow you??? You ain't got no taste at all BITC...."

Please write the author for me and say. "Someone please feed that woman... And give her some knee pads while you are at it... will ya! Her 'milage' is starting to show!"

-the Loathsome Pig!

[OZCUBAN]

...by the looks of her taste in interior decor I would say, "Follow you??? You ain't got no taste at all BITC...."

Please write the author for me and say. "Someone please feed that woman... And give her some knee pads while you are it... will ya! Her 'milage' is starting to show!"

-the Loathsome Pig!

exactly

[OZCUBAN]

Roof top bars are great

I the establishment has a designated smoking area ,don't whinge about the people doing what they are allowed to do ,if you do not like the smoke then go somewhere else these pretentious preppy reporter types annoy the #$%* out of me

revved up OZ

P.S the author is female

[TheBaron]

Funny/annoying story. Went to Siglo/Supper Club with a mate last September for a "few drinks" and a cigar or two. This place is one of the few left in Melbourne where you are still allowed to light up so we were excited about a nice and relaxing night with a bit of blokey banter and a fine CC.

Everything is overpriced there but you suck it up in the knowledge you're at one of the last refuges of a BOTL.

We had just finished our first bottle of red while talking about the history of Treasury Place (or is it Parliament House? Can't remember...) We took out our cigars in preparation to toast. Two women in the 'booth' next to us look over at us with that stupid constipated look and one of them mutters "can you not".

We're at a freakin cigar bar and we're still being tusk, tusked! Can we not have ONE bloody bar without do-gooders ruining an otherwise magical experience?

Needless to say we returned the constipated look, lit up and enjoyed one of God's great delights.

[jayceskinner]

Funny/annoying story. Went to Siglo/Supper Club with a mate last September for a "few drinks" and a cigar or two. This place is one of the few left in Melbourne where you are still allowed to light up so we were excited about a nice and relaxing night with a bit of blokey banter and a fine CC.

Everything is overpriced there but you suck it up in the knowledge you're at one of the last refuges of a BOTL.

We had just finished our first bottle of red while talking about the history of Treasury Place (or is it Parliament House? Can't remember...) We took out our cigars in preparation to toast. Two women in the 'booth' next to us look over at us with that stupid constipated look and one of them mutters "can you not".

We're at a freakin cigar bar and we're still being tusk, tusked! Can we not have ONE bloody bar without do-gooders ruining an otherwise magical experience?

Needless to say we returned the constipated look, lit up and enjoyed one of God's great delights.

Good on you TheBaron you are my new hero.

[Wil]

Was there the other night. Had some donkey at the table next to us theatrically waving her hand in front of her face to blow the smoke away. You picked the wrong bar honey.

[TheBaron]

Was there the other night. Had some donkey at the table next to us theatrically waving her hand in front of her face to blow the smoke away. You picked the wrong bar honey.

Well said. It's like the go out of their way to be offended. It's ridiculous.

I'm a respectful guy but I have little patience or tolerance for idiocy. If you can't handle the smoke, get out of the cigar bar...

[DrunkenMonkey]

Some people really want to be offended. Such people should be given what they want.

[Puros Y Vino]

Needless to say we returned the constipated look, lit up and enjoyed one of God's great delights.

Well done. :clap: This story reminds me of a bit Billy Connelly did regarding being asked to "abstain"

[tmac77]

There are people in this world who live to complain.

[CanuckSARTech]

Well said. It's like the go out of their way to be offended. It's ridiculous.

I'm a respectful guy but I have little patience or tolerance for idiocy. If you can't handle the smoke, get out of the cigar bar...

Some people really want to be offended. Such people should be given what they want.

There are people in this world who live to complain.

I've always been one of those people who preach (and partake) in the methodology of taking the higher route, being the better man, not stooping down to someone else's level, etc., etc., etc. I do feel that that's the better way, 99% of the time.

But every now and again, just because of the way the world's society is now, how things have swung so far to the uber-politically-correct / customer-is-always-right mentallity, people take things to the extreme. Too many people in this world are used to getting what they want, without hesitation, all the time, without any consequences or repercussions that they have to worry about. Want to get a new computer as a 6-year-old brat? Mommy and daddy will buy one. Want to get a "competitor's trophy", even though your team placed 9th out of 10 teams? It's okay, because EVERYONE's a winner. Don't like the fact that you have to get a $30 part replaced on your car that's now 9 years old, and out of warranty, and you never get it serviced anyways? Just call and whine and complain, and someone will help you out - because mommy and daddy will help you out, and everyone's a winner, and the customer is ALWAYS right.

This mentallity has just gone to society's head. Too many people, getting way more than they've earned or deserve, way too much of the time, that the expectation level has just gotten to be absurd.

So, more often than not, these are the types to thumb their noses up at anyone else who does stuff that they don't like, or that they in their armchair-quarterback/weekend-warrior/internet-doctor perception-of-self-intellect deems to be something that's unhealthy. These people, and those 1% of times that these interactions warrant, I love whipping out the huge f-off 2-by-4 of doom, of shut-the-hell-up-you-self-serving-and-self-rightous-pompous-prick.

Oh, my cigar smoke is unhealthy for you? Then pack up your 400-pound, McDonald's loving butt, and that of your 300-pound 8-year-old daughter's, and leave this smoker's patio, and go somewhere else healthy, like the gym. And here's an idea - rather than driving the two-blocks from your house to your kids' school in your Ford Excursion SuperDuty Oversized Edition, maybe walk, and my cigar smoke will actually mean something to someone's lungs, rather than the pollutants your vehicle spits out.

Arrrrrrgggghhh!!!!

If I'm at a bar or outdoor park or a particular venue, I'm always aware of the crowd around me before I light up a cigar. I'm aware that my bad actions as one little cigar smoker can have a negative effect on the bunch of people surrounding me, potentially with even just one person of influence, and can therefore have long-term negative consequences in the area for other BOTL's/SOTL's. But, when you go to an area that's specifically as a smokers' deck, or a cigar bar, or something like that, people don't have a leg to stand on.

I remember seeing it when we were in Cuba - going to an outdoor restaurant, big terrace, lots of cigar smokers, and this one chica and her mangos-and-prunes old-man-boy-toy walked in, and she was all....tsssk....all about....tsssk....waving her hands in her face....and....tsssk....dirty cigar smoke.

Drives me nuts.

[MIKA27]

Great place for a catch up, cigar and to watch Rob freeze on a lovely winter night!

[Orion21]

I call them the "Holier Than Thou Crowd"

They judge, judge judge and judge some more. Anyone who doesn't think the same as they do must be an idiot. The "holier than thou" attitude comes out in full force when people are confronted with cigar smokers. My mother-in-law is a perfect example of this. She smoked cigarettes for 20 years, but ever since she quit 8 years ago she is just appalled whenever she has to smell smoke. It's "disgusting" and she "can't believe people still smoke."

If confronted by an aggressive anti-smoker just remind them you are well within your rights to smoke in the area you are in and that you suggest they be re-seated elsewhere if it bothers them because you don't have that option. If they persist just ignore them and don't engage. The worst case I have seen was a year or so ago when I was out at a local brew house that allowed smoking outside on their very large patio. A couple of older guys in the back corner were smoking cigars and a very aggressive woman confronted them, with wagging finger. You know what the guys said? They said "if our smoke bothers you that much we would be more than happy to send a round of drinks to your table as an apology, but we aren't putting out our cigars." The woman didn't know how to respond to the kindness and it completely threw her aggression for a loop. She mumbled something I couldn't hear and walked away.

[srsMichael]

Reading stuff like this just reassures me that I need to bust my ass and open up a high end, luxury bar dedicated to CIGAR SMOKING before anything else.

[canadianbeaver]

When in Montreal, 3 of us sat down at the Nespresso bar patio. We asked the waiter before lighting up if it was OK. He said no problem.

A couple of minutes later, 2 ladies sat down next to us and we wagered how many seconds until they made a fuss, left or moved. They moved right away but said nothing.

That is what you are supposed to do.

[dvickery]

I call them the "Holier Than Thou Crowd"

She smoked cigarettes for 20 years, but ever since she quit 8 years ago she is just appalled whenever she has to smell smoke. It's "disgusting" and she "can't believe people still smoke."

.

nobody is more "holier than thou" than a reformed sinner...my brother sounds like your mil.

derrek

[scradley]

I remember seeing it when we were in Cuba - going to an outdoor restaurant, big terrace, lots of cigar smokers, and this one chica and her mangos-and-prunes old-man-boy-toy walked in, and she was all....tsssk....all about....tsssk....waving her hands in her face....and....tsssk....dirty cigar smoke.

Drives me nuts.

This happened to me while in Cuba also, was sitting in the lobby @ Sirenis La Salina ( called something else now iirc ) and a couple sat down 2 tables away from me, I was minding my own business with my book and CoRo in hand, all I could hear was her whining to her husband about my cigar smoke..I quietly kept puffing away until she had enough and departed.

[riazp]

There are people in this world who live to complain.

This.

Honestly, you are in a cigar bar, and you have the nerve to complain? its like being in a irish pub and complain about all the drunk frat boys...smh. People just want to complain, especially about cigars. Oh well, keep on smokin fellas!