mk05 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Cigars used to come in 100 cajons or humidors, then scaled down for...well that's a another story that started with the best intentions.
Dbone Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Taking into consideration the the interior of your humidor is cedar, I really don't allow myself to get all that opinionated on what kind of packaging my cigars come in or how flavors result from the packaging, because they're all stored in a big cedar box. I honestly can't believe anyone would ever be able to blindly identify a cigar as one from a dress box or cab based only on flavor. However, if one likes press boxed or round cigars, that is a real result of packaging.
Habanos2000 Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 I have to think that since there is so much variance in cigars in general, the difference between cabs and dress boxes in terms of aging potential or quality is purely coincidental.
Smallclub Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 I was actually looking for a Cajon (100) of Montecristo Especiale's No 1. No luck. The Especiale never came in a cajon of 100. There were supposedly an aluminium pack of 100, but to my knowledge nobody has seen it.
mk05 Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 It's presentation. wheels can be put in mazo format, ie customs in Saran wrap, or in a cabinet/cajon presentation format, in 50s or 100s. Very popular back in the 70-80s until scaled down. Here is a Cohiba 100c from CCW: Back in these times, the boxes were made of solid cedar, and made a big difference on the hygroscopy. The dress boxes now, made with bleached plywood, and with all its water resistant surface, etc, keep differently and taste noticeably different to me.
maverickdrinker Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 There is still a diplomatic Cohiba cajon on display at El Laguito. You would miss it unless you knew what it was...
GammerSmokes Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 My head hurts from all this information! My 2013 wish list consists of cabs and boxes so I couldn't care less. If you got 'em, smoke 'em! Tapatalk'd from my Note II part Tres
mk05 Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 The Especiale never came in a cajon of 100. There were supposedly an aluminium pack of 100, but to my knowledge nobody has seen it. Didn't Amir find one several months back? May have been silver or metal, I can't recall.
Smallclub Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Very popular back in the 70-80s until scaled down. Very popular where? In the poshest areas of London maybe, but I've never seen one in Paris in the 80s.
mk05 Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Was told that's how people used to buy, as with humidor style, then read in Zino's book that as humidification came into play, there was really no reason for cigars to be purchased in bulk by customers, when the shops could sell singles out the door - thus scaling down the cajon presentation. I'd love to hear from your own experience, since I wasn't alive back then
maverickdrinker Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 That is my understanding as well. Was informed that these were reserved for either gifts or special ordered/custom made. There is an interesting story in the MRN book on how he acquired one and suspects that it was a cajon that Fidel had and then gave it up when he gave up cigar smoking. I also heard that cojons were Fidel's favorite format and used it to store his personal cigars for consumption as well as for gifts. Can't confirm it though. Might be a legend story. Would love to have one made. HHHmmmmmm.....
SCgarman Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 What would you guys do if Habanos decided to stop using cabs and ALL cigars were packaged in dress boxes? Quit cigars? To me it is all a personal preference thing and I happen to like square pressed robustos. I think one format tasting better than the other is pure myth and is psychological.
LGC Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 I used to care, but don't anymore. I like to look at cab bundles of cigars, and completely round cigars... but it doesn't really mean anything. They smoke the same, despite the packaging. My boxes sit in plastics coolers, not big airy, walk-in humidors.... or wind tunnels. Therefore, all of the boxes age similarly. A cab in my coolers is not going to experience more air exchange than a dress box. I stick to smoking cigars these days... not obsessing about unproven theories about aging techniques.
Troels Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 It seems that spanish authorities ad well has an idea that cabs holds better cigars, as the cigars in cabs are more expensive than the dressboxed ones - anyway thats what I read from their Price lists on the internet !
nikesupremedunk Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 It's true, a cab of BPC's, RASS, and a couple others are priced higher than the 25 count boxes. luckily, most of the cigars i want to buy come in some form of cabs/wooden boxes.
maverickdrinker Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 I wonder how hard it would be to have slide lid cojons made.... I think I have a 2013 project....
CanuckSARTech Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 I wonder how hard it would be to have slide lid cojons made.... I think I have a 2013 project.... LOL. November 2013 trip????
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