Discontinuation rumors

[ramon_cojones]

Saw someone post a rumor about rascc and 898s on the chopping block, prez can you find out if there's any truth to this? Sounds improbably but you never know with HSA.

[UpInSmoak]

Please say it ain't so!

[JY0]

Here is the list mentioned:

Partagas : 8-9-8, D5, E2 & Presidentes

SCDLH : All

Diplomaticos : No.2

Ramon Allones : Small Club Coronas

[Vortigan]

Sounds like the sort of thing they'd do these days.

[qman22]

I really hope this doesn't happen. 898 is my favorite Partagas

[Ishmael]

Dip #2's?! No way, I don't believe it. In fact any of the above mentioned being discontinued would surprise me. *nervous*

[Bartolomeo]

Why Partagas E2 and D5?

Those just came out last year

[backslide]

I sure hope this isn't true, RASCC is my favorite smoke not to mention my go to.

[Michel1968]

I gotto say this rumor makes me feel somewhat at unease... 898 discontinued??

[gersonmorelli]

Why Partagas E2 and D5?

Those just came out last year

It sure sounds weird. Particularly because they fit well in HSA's growing trend of > 50 ring gauge.

[Rushman]

RASSC and Diplo 2 will break my heart, especially the RASCC.

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[baragh]

yeah sounds a bit weird to cut the rascc as they're bringing in the RG perlas??

[Alwayslit]

Wow. It's a shame they are killing all the small rg cigars. I'm not surpised about the dips. I'm surprised the LGC aren't on the list.

[El Presidente]

Saw someone post a rumor about rascc and 898s on the chopping block, prez can you find out if there's any truth to this? Sounds improbably but you never know with HSA.

Will try and find out over the weekend, early next week.

Partagas : 8-9-8, D5, E2 & Presidentes The 898 in 10's I could see being in trouble. A lot of top end packaging for 10 cigars. Makes no sense to me. The E5 was mispriced from the outset (Trinidad Robusto "T" diesease). The D5 a flop.

SCDLH : All The principe is the only real seller but I suspect trails all other Minutos.

Diplomaticos : No.2 Hard to keep a brand with one cigar. Add a Robusto and bring back the Dip 4. It can be revitalised.

Ramon Allones : Small Club Coronas Perhaps only beats the Principe in sales. RASCC have been very hard to find this year in the Asia Pacific.

[CaptainQuintero]

Wouldn't be overly surprised with the E2/D5 for sales in the UK, UK based stuff:

E2 - 25% more than a CoRo

D5 - same price as a Mag 46/short churchill/Dip 2/BRC (Monte espi #2 is cheaper), or pay 50p more and get a D4....

Presidentes - Not classed as an elite cigar so isn't even imported

Plenty of RASCC about but all old stock.

Dip 2 - Plenty of 1,3,4,5 still about. (Four is starting to trickle out)

SCDLH - I'd suspect the sales of the whole marca are essentially null.

Greedy price setting is becoming a little too common from H&F recently. Poor business model in terms of only catering to the cash splashers, discouraging lesser known brands (The ones with the smaller profit potentials) and not trying to gain new customers is pretty poor form.

I wouldn't be overly surprised if these deltions come about as a result of a phonecall from HSA to the H&F warehouse:

"Do you have lots of *Insert cigar that is outside the top 10 for sales here* laying about?"

"Yeah we have thousands of boxes!"

"Ok, we delete."

[kiwiman911]

Wouldn't be overly surprised with the E2/D5 for sales in the UK, UK based stuff:

Dip 2 - Plenty of 1,3,4,5 still about. (Four is starting to trickle out)

I would just about sell my mother(ok maybe not my mother, but my brother for sure) to get my hands on some Dip 5

you are so lucky in the UK I will probably start looking at a B&M to see

[Smallclub]

This is the 4th time since 2000 the Presidente is rumoured to be discontinued.

As for the RASCC, if it's really cut, I guess we can thank the multitude of RA Regionals of approx. the same lenght that use the same leaves…

[Diamondog]

Why Partagas E2 and D5?

Those just came out last year

Got to believe the price point on the E2 has killed sales....I love the cigar but it is pricey...

[ramon_cojones]

I love the rascc, hard to believe they would 86 33% of their reg production lineup especially a favorite such as this.

[CaptainQuintero]

I would just about sell my mother(ok maybe not my mother, but my brother for sure) to get my hands on some Dip 5

you are so lucky in the UK I will probably start looking at a B&M to see

lol you'd probably ask for your Brother back when you saw the price ring up on the till!!! I think it's the only reason why there are so many HTF cigars in the UK....it's because they are hard to buy!!

Got to believe the price point on the E2 has killed sales....I love the cigar but it is pricey...

Agree, I go across the board when looking at similar priced cigars. When Sir Winnies are cheaper why jump for anything else?

[LGC]

This is a good marketing move by them. If you have stuff sitting around, discontinue it. People will fear missing a cigar that they never bothered buying previously. We have seen plenty examples of this since 2002. Personally, I've quit worrying about what band I have on my cigars... as long as they perform well.

If you make something a "limited" release and put 2 bands on it, folks will buy it. Jack up the price per stick, put it in a fancy box, and put 10 sticks in the box(instead of 25)... and everyone will be standing in line to get their pre-orders placed. I will quit the hobby before I start paying 15 to 50 dollars for a fresh stick that hasn't been proven.

[maverickdrinker]

mental note: buy as many boxes of RASCC that I can in the next few months....

[backslide]

mental note: buy as many boxes of RASCC that I can in the next few months....

Yup :-(

[gersonmorelli]

I would miss the SCDH... I thoroughly enjoy the Mercadares and the Principes. One of them is already officially gone. Maybe they should include the marca in the RE to try lift sales bringing more visibility to these great cigars.

[ramon_cojones]

I got a couple boxes on ice, may have to cop 4 more.