cckandb24 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Signed. Nothing ever changes if you never do anything
PigFish Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Altadis and Imperial Tobacco don't speak the language of capitalism? Seriously? It's precisely a warped model of capitalism that is responsible for what we reproach to HSA, I don't see the point of an other anti-Castro diatribe in this matter… Not simply anti-Castro mate, sorry you don't get it! Pro reality! Believe that Altadis holds the key? Fine, copy the man's letter and send the letter to them!!! Why not send the letter to them? Because they don't control squat and you know it too. It is the socialist sycophant, protecting this losing ideology that always seeks to prevent a candid discussion of the matter and lay it off on another. I say send the letter to whom is to blame and be candid about what you want as a consumer. You think it is Altadis, send it there. I say skip H SA and send it to Tabacuba... if their email works! If you send the letter to Altadis, I'll bet that they will even respond to it, unlike Cuba! I bet the phone and the internet works there too! -LOL Yeah... they are a bunch of failures over their at Altadis. Their execs are driving rainbow colored '55 Chevys and they must have printed the money and pleaded with Tabacuba to take their $400M. Their catalogue is really limited in scope too! Those Cubans were doing perfectly fine, fattening up their people at $18 bucks a month till those killer capitalists at Altadis got their greedy hands on H SA!!! -LOL Yeah mate.... great argument! Don't blame Castro is always the answer! Blame Altadis. -LOL -the Pig
Montaigut Posted July 5, 2012 Author Posted July 5, 2012 Update as of July 5th, 22h00 hr: 44 signatures FYI The letter will go to the four top hitters in HSA/Altadis, both in Spain and Cuba. Any response will be posted here for you reading pleasure! Cheers Dan
El Presidente Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Update as of July 5th, 22h00 hr: 44 signatures FYI The letter will go to the four top hitters in HSA/Altadis, both in Spain and Cuba. Any response will be posted here for you reading pleasure! Cheers Dan Dan I will fire the link out in Mondays Newsletter to all FOH and Cigar Underground Network members. Let's see if some of the boys here can promote it through ICC/HCF/CA. If the cigar community can't arrange 1000 signatures globally then it deserves all the cuts it gets.
Montaigut Posted July 5, 2012 Author Posted July 5, 2012 Dan I will fire the link out in Mondays Newsletter to all FOH and Cigar Underground Network members. Let's see if some of the boys here can promote it through ICC/HCF/CA. If the cigar community can't arrange 1000 signatures globally then it deserves all the cuts it gets. Thanks Rob, I am also working to get the petition going on other sites... the more the merrier. We absolutely have to link up with the Guantanamera Lobby Group. I figure if they have managed to keep the marca from discontinuation so far it is because they carry the biggest stick in Cuba!! Cheers mate Dan
AverageJoe83 Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Regarless of some peoples incoherent rants, SIGNED.
Hohenthal Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 [quote name='El Presidente' timestamp='1341519089' post='320703' If the cigar community can't arrange 1000 signatures globally then it deserves all the cuts it gets. Yes.
Nino Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Thanks Rob, I am also working to get the petition going on other sites... the more the merrier. We absolutely have to link up with the Guantanamera Lobby Group. I figure if they have managed to keep the marca from discontinuation so far it is because they carry the biggest stick in Cuba!! Cheers mate Dan Gotta love that..... optimism at its best, joining forces with the GLG !
SethG Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 IMHO, this is the core of communism in practice, this is what it means. Cuban cigar culture is old and proud. For more than 400 years it has evolved, changed to meet customer demands and grown, always while remaining true to itself and its history. There is no competition between houses, and if you smoke Cuban's, it all flows to Habanos. There's no doubt that we can shift our money elsewhere, or slow down the spend, but if Habanos believed that, would communism be running the show? If there were different brands, undoubtedly a smaller house would produce the off beat cigars we want, but it's not so. Personally, I think it's time to admit that this all part of the system they produce cigars under and "oh well."
Bunner Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 I signed it but really how much weight does an online petition have?
Montaigut Posted July 6, 2012 Author Posted July 6, 2012 I signed it but really how much weight does an online petition have? Only one way to find out mate! But I can tell you one thing: 100 signatures or won't cut it...
Montaigut Posted July 6, 2012 Author Posted July 6, 2012 I signed it but really how much weight does an online petition have? Only one way to find out mate! One thing is sure though, 100 sigantures or so won't cut it...
Montaigut Posted July 6, 2012 Author Posted July 6, 2012 As of july 6th, 21h00 hr: 56 signatures Cheers Dan
Rushman Posted July 7, 2012 Posted July 7, 2012 Signed --- I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=20.631932,-87.070746
Montaigut Posted July 7, 2012 Author Posted July 7, 2012 Update as of July 7th, 21h00 CET 58 signatures Cheers Dan
Montaigut Posted July 8, 2012 Author Posted July 8, 2012 Update as of July 8th, 21h30 CET 61 signatures Cheers Dan
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