What does one mean by "cream" in a cigar?

[isa]

I am curious to know what one experiences when one talks about "cream" in a cigar. I can make out quite a few flavours in cigars, but cream eludes me, not that i have been smoking cigars for very long

But i would like some pointers, if possible, to help me(and other noobs in the same boat) to be able to recognise this particular flavour.

Is it more on the palatte - in the mouth, that one experiences this flavour? Is it a general mouthfeel ? Any particular location in the mouth? Sorry, if my questions are funny

Is it that, if the smoke feels very smooth, then one says its creamy?

Really confused, help

[Ken Gargett]

for me, half flavour and half texture - and they seem to fit together glove in hand. some cigars get a lovely creamy coffee character. and then there is the creamy-ish texture. not sure if that helps.

[isa]

Thanks Ken - love ur videos , BTW

Its definitely a pointer

[Julesgf]

I'm guessing you want to watch out when Ken has a glove in hand

[rfenst]

So, what cigars are the creamiest??/

Once he knows, he will be able to smoke them and identify the creamy flavor/texture.

[Cohiba007]

In my opinion, Montes are creamiest. A good monte 4 or PE is cream heaven.

[isa]

Thanks for the suggestions - i have had just a couple of monte 4 & petit edmundos - will have to try more to discover cream

BTW, does "creamy" imply sweetness - i found the petit edmundo pretty sweet on the palatte?

[Ginseng]

for me, half flavour and half texture - and they seem to fit together glove in hand. some cigars get a lovely creamy coffee character. and then there is the creamy-ish texture. not sure if that helps.

Spot on. Although I don't necessarily associate creaminess with coffee. Sometimes it is a silky sweet dairy note. Like, well, sweet cream.

Wilkey

[tmac77]

For me it is a combination of a vanilla flavour profile and a smooth mellow taxture. Kind of like the caramelized top portion of a creme brule.

[Smallclub]

- will have to try more to discover cream

BTW, does "creamy" imply sweetness -?

You can't "discover" cream; it's about texture and thickness (like the "mâche" of the wine vocabulary), and no it doesn't necessarily imply sweetness: for instance certain H.Upmann cigars can be very creamy without beeing sweet or sugary…

[Dbone]

Simple.... cream flavor for me taste like marshmallow! Like the inside of a campfire roasted marshmallow. Thick, heavy, smooth smoke... slightly sweet at times. You'll find it

[CaptainQuintero]

Smoke an aged HDM Des Dieux or a HMD Epi #2 and you will understand

It's as if someone poured fresh cream into the cigar

[dvickery]

isa

to me...creamy...is more of a lack of bite...a smoother mellower cigar is (for me) a "creamy" cigar.there is no "taste" i

associate with creamy.

just me

derrek

[Orion21]

For me it's the profile of the smoke. If its a "creamy" cigar the smoke has an oily mouth coating property with little to no spice. It can be sweet, buttery or even a negative characteristic because there is little to no flavor. Hope that helps.

[Vortigan]

Smoke an aged HDM Des Dieux or a HMD Epi #2 and you will understand

It's as if someone poured fresh cream into the cigar

^ Definitely what he said!

[PigFish]

for me, half flavour and half texture - and they seem to fit together glove in hand. some cigars get a lovely creamy coffee character. and then there is the creamy-ish texture. not sure if that helps.

This is a very good explanation.

I use the term unctuous to describe certain characteristics of a cigar. It is a character and not a flavor. Cream, the actual stuff is an unctuous product and it has a fat content that gives it that mouth feel.

Creaminess in a cigar has a silky smooth, lightly oily testure which in not heavy enough to make you gag nor to wish to cleanse your palate, yet it is noticeable and can remain as a "finish." Since I drink cream with my coffee, I also associate the feel to coffee but not the taste. The taste itself is not something I can't put flavor too except the sensations of sweet and rich.

[tmac77]

Smoking a creamy smooth 2005 ERDM Tainos right now.

[Colt45]

I also agree that it can be mouthfeel as well as flavor. Sometimes it is less outright - perhaps an Upmann Sir Winston which for me

has distinct coffee notes, but with a bit of cream added.

Sometimes it can be quite pronounced - for me the Hoyo de Monterrey double corona (and to a somewhat lesser extent the Hoyo churchill)

can exhibit a sweet cream character, almost to the point of condensed milk.

[ramon_cojones]

Most creaminess I experienced was a 1926 padron natural, loads of cream.

[SCgarman]

Try a Cohiba Robusto with 3 to 4 years of age. Very smooth, creamy taste and texture on the palate. Many of the Dominican cigars with Connecticut shade wrappers are mild and creamy tasting cigars.

[Ginseng]

Most creaminess I experienced was a 1926 padron natural, loads of cream.

Wow. Never has a 1926 failed to kick my butt. And the nats have been the stronger of the two. No creaminess for me with either variant.

Wilkey

[ramon_cojones]

It was one of the bigger vitolas and it may have had some more age on it not sure it was my buddy's stick and we traded. I was like holy **** this thing is creamy as ****, was about 1.5 yrs ago.

[Diamondog]

I associate cream in a cigar more on the finish a thick rich coating on the palate so to speak, more of a texture, now that texture can have variations of sweetness or not....if you really want to find out, have a little drink of some coffee cream, and when you smoke a cigar and have that "creamy" texture on the finish sweet or not, you'll know it...

[mk05]

Well...it's exactly what it sounds like. Can't really describe it as something else. If it wasn't, I'm guessing we would describe it as something else.

Most creaminess I experienced was a 1926 padron natural, loads of cream.

must have been a hell of a smoke. those things have always been pepper bombs to me.

[isa]

Am really amazed that so many of you experienced smokers have chipped in - thanks a lot to all of you But thats what is great about this forum I hope this knowledge will be helpful to many new smokers out there. I dont have aged CoRos, Tainos, Sir Winston - but do have a cab of HDM des dieux 2003 - so i guess that will be a starting point, hope thats old enough. Thanks Pigfish for that explanation - i will now look for that texture - unctuous, smooth, thick ...

BTW, does this imply that a creamy cigar wont leave a dry mouthfeel?