What does one mean by "cream" in a cigar?

[tydra]

Fully agree with both Ken and Wilkey.

This might also help, have you tried Cream icecream from Coldstone?

I wouldn't know about the Des Dieux meeting the criteria and I have a few boxes from 01, but a Monte Edmundo, a Cohiba Siglo III, or a HdM Con 1. The older the better.

I don't think it has anything to do with having or not a dry feel to your mouth, but it feels like the smoke has a luxurious, floating feel in your mouth rather than hot or peppery.

[Ghabanos]

Silky smooth coating in the mouth.

[CaptainQuintero]

Your Des Dieux are the poster child of cream in a cigar for me, if you don't get it in those then you probably won't pick it up in others on any regular basis.

Light one of those suckers up and smoke it as slow as possible, the faster you smoke those the quicker the cream vanishes and the spice appears

[canadianbeaver]

Since I started smoking cigars the folks at my B&M talked about the creaminess of a cigar. To us it meant smoothness of the stick with minimal burn or acidity on the tongue, particularly with newer or cheaper cigars. I have also found it on some vintage cigars and I am now applying it to Scotch too.

Lisa

[ajgagnon]

Didn't Pres say something in the vid reviews of his custom cigars that creaminess is characteristic of seco or volado? Or can it come from any part of the plant? In any case, to me it can be a great part of an overall profile in a cigar.

However, I agree that it sometimes shows up strongly in non-Cubans where there is little other flavour to balance it out (Brick House, etc). Those are the ones I give to newbies b/c the flavour won't overpower a new palate. But there can be wonderful coffee-cream flavour in CCs and NCs too... it's all about the experience!

[Ginseng]

Since I started smoking cigars the folks at my B&M talked about the creaminess of a cigar. To us it meant smoothness of the stick with minimal burn or acidity on the tongue, particularly with newer or cheaper cigars. I have also found it on some vintage cigars and I am now applying it to Scotch too.

Lisa

Spoken like a true coffee fan.

So what has been reiterated a few times is that creaminess has both a flavor and a textural dimension. It is entirely possible to have a sweet stick that is drying just like it is possible to have a silky mouthfeel with predominant pepper notes. It's in this 2-D space that the reports in this thread have been falling.

The practical analysis suggests that if the smoker associates creaminess with a sweet/dairy flavor note, then a cigar with that characteristic will be reported as as "creamy." Whereas someone who keys on smoke texture may not make that association.

Wilkey

[isa]

Your Des Dieux are the poster child of cream in a cigar for me, if you don't get it in those then you probably won't pick it up in others on any regular basis.

Light one of those suckers up and smoke it as slow as possible, the faster you smoke those the quicker the cream vanishes and the spice appears

Captain, I smoked one des dieux yesterday - so will it be correct to say it felt like coffee & cream? Is that what gets normally from des dieux or is possible to get?

[isa]

Didn't Pres say something in the vid reviews of his custom cigars that creaminess is characteristic of seco or volado? Or can it come from any part of the plant? In any case, to me it can be a great part of an overall profile in a cigar.

However, I agree that it sometimes shows up strongly in non-Cubans where there is little other flavour to balance it out (Brick House, etc). Those are the ones I give to newbies b/c the flavour won't overpower a new palate. But there can be wonderful coffee-cream flavour in CCs and NCs too... it's all about the experience!

I believe he said a high seco percentage leads to creaminess - volado is probably more related to burn, correct me if i got it wrong

[isa]

Fully agree with both Ken and Wilkey.

This might also help, have you tried Cream icecream from Coldstone?

I wouldn't know about the Des Dieux meeting the criteria and I have a few boxes from 01, but a Monte Edmundo, a Cohiba Siglo III, or a HdM Con 1. The older the better.

I don't think it has anything to do with having or not a dry feel to your mouth, but it feels like the smoke has a luxurious, floating feel in your mouth rather than hot or peppery.

Actually i havent had that icecream. I have tried just a single edmundo(dont have any in stock), and dont have any siglo III or connie I. Anyway, will keep it in mind

[CaptainQuintero]

Captain, I smoked one des dieux yesterday - so will it be correct to say it felt like coffee & cream? Is that what gets normally from des dieux or is possible to get?

Everyone always gets different things from different cigars, some people can never taste anything othr than tobacco while others can pick out what field a cigar's tobacco has been rolled from and what the roller had for breakfast

But personally yep the Des Dieux with age on (like yours) are mouthfulls of single cream (flavour) with a bit of coffee/spicy wood.

Texture wise the BHK 52 for me was like eating froth from a latte, so amazingly thick smoke, so that would get the 'cream texture vote' if you're looking for that while the Des Dieux gets the 'cream flavour' vote for me.

[isa]

Everyone always gets different things from different cigars, some people can never taste anything othr than tobacco while others can pick out what field a cigar's tobacco has been rolled from and what the roller had for breakfast

But personally yep the Des Dieux with age on (like yours) are mouthfulls of single cream (flavour) with a bit of coffee/spicy wood.

Texture wise the BHK 52 for me was like eating froth from a latte, so amazingly thick smoke, so that would get the 'cream texture vote' if you're looking for that while the Des Dieux gets the 'cream flavour' vote for me.

Great to hear that Captain, because thats what it felt like to me yesterday. BTW, i have a box of BHK 52, so will try that too , thanks