jwr0201 Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 I enjoy both. IMHO, however, a good Cuban is on par with the very best of the NC. It's that distinctive common taste that all Cubans seem to possess. Also seems that most CC's are enjoyable enough to take right down to the nub. For me, very few NC's are that good.
gllerner Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 I got plenty of the end of the year treats! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
RWhiz Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 If you're not smoking high-end Fuentes and Padrons, because you're "100% CC," you're not really a cigar smoker. You're just a snob. And you have no idea what you're missing, fellas. While I kind of agree with the sentiment that one should be open to cigars and other luxuries regardless of perceived value derived from origin, I would temper the wording somewhat. I enjoy CCs and NCs both. Personally I think Illusione, Oliva, Padron, and others make a world class product.
Johneastridge Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 I'm split 50/50. I have my go to NCs and my go to CCs. When it comes to NCs I like My Father, Padron, and Fuente. That's about it.
SemperFumidus Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 If you're not smoking high-end Fuentes and Padrons, because you're "100% CC," you're not really a cigar smoker. You're just a snob. And you have no idea what you're missing, fellas. I would suspect even the ardent 100% CC smokers have at least tried those two, or at least, I would like to believe that because they are awesome sticks. The aromatics from Padron are really distinctive. In the end we are all cigar smokers regardless, even if you or I think they're missing out. I feel the same way about wine drinkers who say they only drink from Napa and won't touch Sonoma, etc. but hey, that's an extra bottle for me.
Fugu Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 I feel the same way about wine drinkers who say they only drink from Napa and won't touch Sonoma, etc. but hey, that's an extra bottle for me. Sorry, Napa? Sonoma?! Never heard of. But if you will excuse me, I have to decant my ‘85 DRC La Tâche. 1
PigFish Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 Note to Rob: Better start visiting those 'other' booths at the RTDA.... I can see it now. Join FoH, get'a free blunt!!! All that matters is that you enjoy what you smoke my friends. The exception is for mooches, they must enjoy what their friends smoke! Me, I don't really care where a cigar comes from as long as it tastes good. Provenance is therefore is not a preference in and of itself, it is just a matter of taste based on my experience. Knowing what I like then, is really primary. The cigar industry thrives on getting people out of their comfort zone in order to buy something new. Some of us don't easily succumb to such nonsense. If trying the 'new,' is one of your motivations for smoking then you certainly don't think that the act is nonsense at all! Just because the Cubans make it does not make it good. I am therefore just as harsh on those that make what I consider the best cigars in the world, verses those that are 'second rate.' The Cubans engage in the same nonsense as the non-Cuban makers. The marketing department over there in Cuba is just a few decades behind the free world... (thank God) By all accounts of the smoking public, I am the one that smokes second rate cigars! I like PC's and Coronas and all those cigars that have been discontinued. Cigars that 'did not fetch' a premium price are the cigars that I like the most. The "high-line" cigar of yesteryear is certainly not the mainstream of today's market, but I still enjoy them as well. These would include what is left of the lonsdales, panatelas, etc. I think it is silly to go on looking for a better cigar at $15 a stick when I can smoke the ones I like best at $4.50! If that makes me a snob, well, then I am a snob!!! I say it is better to own 100 cigar that I will likely love than 25 cigars I may not like. The box and bands don't make the cigars taste any better. That philosophy has filled my humidors with what I consider the best cigars in the world... If you feel differently, fill your humidor with what you see fit and we will both be happy! -Piggy 1
SemperFumidus Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 Sorry, Napa? Sonoma?! Never heard of. But if you will excuse me, I have to decant my ‘85 DRC La Tâche. Hmmm, sorry, they don't carry that at Binny's but I hear it makes a lovely braise. 1
wabashcr Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 When it comes to cigars, for me, variety is the spice of life. I like to take chances on new releases. Of course I still revert back to the tried and true, the ones I know I love. But I can't fathom limiting myself to a preexisting subset of cigars for the rest of my cigar smoking life. While I do believe the finest tobacco, and hence the finest cigars in the world come from Cuba, the innovation and variety of the NC side will always appeal to me. 3
Popular Post ChefBoyRG54 Posted December 31, 2015 Popular Post Posted December 31, 2015 If you're not smoking high-end Fuentes and Padrons, because you're "100% CC," you're not really a cigar smoker. You're just a snob. And you have no idea what you're missing, fellas.So smoking BRC and PSD4 at 8 or so USD a pop is being a snob, unless I also smoke 15 to 30 USD Padron and Fuentes? Yeah, logic seems right...... 5
eswary Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 I'm a legit "flip-flopper" I guess. Went from basic poop NC cigars when I first started, to CC's, then to quality NC's, now back to CC's. 15-16 yr adventure in tobacco with a ever changing palette. I love cigars whether CC or NC, a good cigar is a good cigar. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3
CigSid Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Just to reiterate... I did a massive amount of research into the differences in the tobacco, the soil, and the growing techniques of cigars around the world. I found that the main difference is in the soil in Cuba (especially the Vuelta Abajo region) which has virtually no Malik Acid (the naturally occurring substance that gives green apples their tart flavor) in the soil makeup. Everywhere else in the world this substance is abundant...This, combined with the climate and the techniques the Cubans have perfected, are the reasons that CC's are the best cigars in the world. This is also the reason that NC's will never be as good... 1
Popular Post DropTopDee Posted December 31, 2015 Popular Post Posted December 31, 2015 If you're not smoking high-end Fuentes and Padrons, because you're "100% CC," you're not really a cigar smoker. You're just a snob. And you have no idea what you're missing, fellas. 5
Habanakane21 Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 If you're not smoking high-end Fuentes and Padrons, because you're "100% CC," you're not really a cigar smoker. You're just a snob. And you have no idea what you're missing, fellas. Over priced hot dirt. I guess I'm a snob Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Diamondog Posted January 1, 2016 Author Posted January 1, 2016 Been a couple years thought Id give an Opus X a try again. Picked one up last time I was in the dominican although they used to be a staple for me back in my earlier days have not had one in a while. Still the same for me, the Cuban profile is just integral to what I enjoy in a cigar regardless of which Cuban, it is a profile for me that is unmistakeable and still non negotiable in my cigar requirements. Now the RyJ mille fleur that followed blew the Opus out of the water...
srbbones Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 I think a lot has to do with which cigars you started to develop you palate with. As a person who enjoys both, I would say that, were I to compare enjoyment factors between CC and NC, the median score of CCs would definitely be a bit higher than NCs overall, but there are many NCs I enjoy
ThatAlfonso Posted January 3, 2016 Posted January 3, 2016 I enjoy both, Compared side by side, I think the Best of the Cubans always wins over the Best of the Non-Cubans, but there are a lot of great non-cubans that can stand up against alot of the Cubans now a days. One thing is for sure though, there is no mistaking that authentic Cuban taste ! Many have tried and some have come close, but that is one thing that has not and can not be replicated. But that doesn't mean other flavors can't be just as good. I think it's rediculous when some Non-Cuban makers spend so much time and marketing trying to get into the public's brain that the seed is of Cuban decent, the wrapper is form cuban decent, the recipe was smuggled out from cuba, the family is from cuban decent, and the roller was a famous cuban roller. That's all fine and dandy, but what's great about such products made from the earth is they are leaving out the MOST IMPORTANT KEY to the recipe- The soil and secondly the weather and ambient surroundings. That can't be replicated. The soil that the tobac is grown in in Cuba combined with the surroundings and the weather, is exactly what makes it stand apart. It's just like wine. Does California make some great wine - sure, of course they do, so does Australia, South Africa, South America, and many other places. Would anybody be happy drinking a good quality wine from one of those places - Absolutely, but any one of those regions that tried to produce what they call a "Bordeaux style wine" will fall short, simply because they lack the main ingredient, the soil and weather patterns in the Bordeaux region of France that lends the grapevines such a unique and decedent taste structure. It is the same with cigars. Good flavor is just good flavor and it can be unique to each individuals palate, but there is no mistaking that the Cuban flavor profile is different, unique and one of a kind! Will be interesting to watch the marketing strategy of NC brands change as CCs become available in the US. With a void and American knowledge that CCs are best, it made sense to use the Cuban seed claims in advertising. Post-embargo it would seem more like admitting you make an inferior product.
CanuckSARTech Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 Jesus, did I just read this??? ... I don't have sex with goats either! Unless I do, I have no idea how to make love; is that it??? Missing something? I'll risk it! This is the silliest post I have seen on here in a long time. -the Pig There's just SOOOOOOO much awesomeness in that apples-to-effing-Lamborghinis comparison. I LOL'd. Haaaard. Ray - you don't wanna know what we do with goat-sex people. I'm sure there's a few YouTube videos to show it. LOL. Funny - you can "rent" a goat per hour (in certain sandy countries of the world) at $30 USD. However, you can buy one for $40, and have it also butchered and BBQ'd up for you for $50. Shows you how everyone uses sex to turn a high profit!!!!
Fuzz Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 There's just SOOOOOOO much awesomeness in that apples-to-effing-Lamborghinis comparison. I LOL'd. Haaaard. Ray - you don't wanna know what we do with goat-sex people. I'm sure there's a few YouTube videos to show it. LOL. Funny - you can "rent" a goat per hour (in certain sandy countries of the world) at $30 USD. However, you can buy one for $40, and have it also butchered and BBQ'd up for you for $50. Shows you how everyone uses sex to turn a high profit!!!! How do you know so much about the goat trade? Do they keep the rented goats separate from the BBQ goats? 1
luv2fly Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 Do they keep the rented goats separate from the BBQ goats? I hope so. Would not like to eat my new friend!
... Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 Do they keep the rented goats separate from the BBQ goats?Classic love/ate relationship ? 2
Olga Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Is it true NC makers can use 7% Cuban tobacco in their cigars? Hear that over the weekend.
CanuckSARTech Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 How do you know so much about the goat trade? LOL. Do they keep the rented goats separate from the BBQ goats? Nope. Reduce, reuse, recycle.
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