TM-US Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Is the 21 year worth ~$450? Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNo, it’s not. Dr. Bill recently characterized the 21 as a hyper aged Ardbeg 10, while the Twentysomething is characterized as an old school sherried Ardbeg. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lant63 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, umbzp44 said: No, it’s not. Dr. Bill recently characterized the 21 as a hyper aged Ardbeg 10, while the Twentysomething is characterized as an old school sherried Ardbeg. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Who is Dr Bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM-US Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I managed to snag 1 bottle of Ardbeg 21, but at a price that worked for me - I paid about $180 USD and covered the rest in a cigar trade with the guy. A very good trade for both of us! The Ardbeg 23, on the other hand....yeah. I'm not paying $750 for a '90s Ardbeg. We're into silly territory now. It's my favorite malt but so many of their recent releases have been shyte that I'm getting tired of them. Auriverdes - boring young whisky Perpetuum - even more boring palate, nothing of interest Dark Cove - Was compared to the old Uigeadails that used '70s sherried Ardbeg. I'm not sure why. Both the Committee Release and the regular release were sour youngish whisky to me. Kelpie - Had some hopes, was really disappointed. Committee release actually tasted unpleasant, with many off notes to me. I havn't yet tried the regular release but I have a bottle of it. An Oa - Just tried it in Tokyo Hyatt last week. Surprisingly enjoyable! I will likely get a couple bottles for the shelf/Collection. Now I'm searching for Chichibu at a reasonable cost. I was able to visit the distillery for a tour while I was over in Japan, and the whisky's stellar stuff, it's just impossible to find for me. I enjoyed the Yoichi "Peaty and Salty" as well, managed to get a bottle on an online auction without breaking the bank. Taste is subjective; if you didn’t like the ones above, I’m curious which Ardbegs you like. I liked the CR Dark Cove and didn’t mind the CR Kelpie. I found the An Oa to be too light in character. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanceSchmerr Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, Lant63 said: Who is Dr Bill? Dr. Bill Lumsden. Sort of the "head whisky guru" for Ardbeg/Glenmorangie......at least he was last time I looked him up. 10 minutes ago, umbzp44 said: Taste is subjective; if you didn’t like the ones above, I’m curious which Ardbegs you like. I liked the CR Dark Cove and didn’t mind the CR Kelpie. I found the An Oa to be too light in character. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk A fair question! Favorite of all time is the Airigh Nam Beist. Close second is the 1977/1978, and single cask 1974's have been exceptional that I've tasted but I'm sure I'll never get a bottle. I also really enjoy Ardbeg 10 yr bottled before 2007 - the old distillate was just something else. 2003/2004 Uigeadails are amongst my favorites, and for recent bottlings, the Alligator and Galileo were lovely whiskies as well. I think they just really started missing the plot the last few years by almost completely forgoing age statements aside from the 10yr. Coming out with rare ridiculously priced vintages does not solve it either. Bring back Ardbeg 17yr (at a reasonable price and 46%) and I'll be happy! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM-US Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Who is Dr Bill? Dr. Bill Lumsden, the master distiller for Glenmorangie ArdbegSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lant63 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Dr. Bill Lumsden, the master distiller for Glenmorangie ArdbegSent from my iPhone using TapatalkPerfect. Thanks guys. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM-US Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 A fair question! Favorite of all time is the Airigh Nam Beist. Close second is the 1977/1978, and single cask 1974's have been exceptional that I've tasted but I'm sure I'll never get a bottle. I also really enjoy Ardbeg 10 yr bottled before 2007 - the old distillate was just something else. 2003/2004 Uigeadails are amongst my favorites, and for recent bottlings, the Alligator and Galileo were lovely whiskies as well. I think they just really started missing the plot the last few years by almost completely forgoing age statements aside from the 10yr. Coming out with rare ridiculously priced vintages does not solve it either. Bring back Ardbeg 17yr (at a reasonable price and 46%) and I'll be happy!We’re on the same page, I have a bunch of 2003 Uigeadail, one of my favorite. I recently got a bottle of Alligator and it is great as well. I wish we could get 17 at a reasonable price. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 4 hours ago, umbzp44 said: Taste is subjective; if you didn’t like the ones above, I’m curious which Ardbegs you like. I liked the CR Dark Cove and didn’t mind the CR Kelpie. I found the An Oa to be too light in character. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Agreed 100% I much prefer the 10 to the An Oa and the Dark Cove is stellar imo. Not opened my Kelpie yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lotusguy Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Taste is subjective; if you didn’t like the ones above, I’m curious which Ardbegs you like. I liked the CR Dark Cove and didn’t mind the CR Kelpie. I found the An Oa to be too light in character. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDark Cove CR was awesome - how can any ardbeg fan not like it?No use crying over the old days - they're gone and they're not coming back. Frankly, I drink a ton more Laphroaig these days than Ardbeg. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sengjc Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Good to see many passionate and like minded whisky enthusiasts.I think the industry as a whole is going through a sort of renaissance period at the moment and breaking new ground, trying new things with different levels of success.One thing is for sure, it’s quite an exciting time for the whisky drinker and being spoilt from choice and variety even though it can be getting a little expensive. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gmalafouris Posted November 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2017 Well My favourite bottle is karuizawa for kinlonz only. But Heres some goodies. Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM-US Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 13 hours ago, maverickdrinker said: Recent pick ups... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Is Canadian whisky with tons of age any good? What does it taste like? Are there differences between JP Wisers and Canadian Club bottlings in terms of content? A lot of Canadian whisky has grain neutral spirits in it (basically vodka) and they are often terrible because of that. Also, they are often blended with several different whiskies- bourbon, rye, corn whisky, etc. I would imagine that a very high end bottling won't have any of the crap in it, but I was more curious to see if it is a single source whisky or still blended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lant63 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Another here in favor of the Dark Cove CR. I have yet to try the An Oa. In terms of ten year old expressions I prefer Ardbeg over Laphroig. I wish there was a Lag 10 that was similarly priced. Duty free, the 16 gets close to it. LAg 16>ardbeg 10> laphroig 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sastrooper Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 On 08/11/2017 at 11:46 PM, gmalafouris said: Well My favourite bottle is karuizawa for kinlonz only. But Heres some goodies. Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Damn... can we be friends 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sengjc Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Well My favourite bottle is karuizawa for kinlonz only. But Heres some goodies...Very impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sengjc Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Three bottles of the 2015 JC’s Own Stonewell Shiraz for cellaring:An interesting looking wine with a rather small release with only 558 bottles produced.Quite big in style by the looks of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_F Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 11 and 20 year old Ron Santiago de Cuba. Can't wait to get into them! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sengjc Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 A gifted double magnum of the 2015 Peter Lehman the Portrait Barossa Shiraz.Also a couple more bottles of the Ardbeg Dark Cove. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bsneed51 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Couple of Black Friday pick ups. Two of my favorite barrel aged stouts. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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