Ken Gargett Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, SirVantes said: I haven't had one of the 2000s yet, but drank a couple of 1999s last weekend. They are into the drinking window that I prefer, with secondary flavours of cedar, leather and earth to go with the fruit. I think that Monte Bellos are the most elegant wines to come out of California and I prefer mine with some age. I've had 2005 and 2006 over the last 6 months, and both are drinking quite nicely but still young to my palate. If you decant the 2013 for a few hours and pair it with a good steak, I think you'd be a happy man. As for long-term potential, I hunted down a 1971, of the fabled Judgment of Paris tasting, a couple of years back. It was fantastic, and still had at least a few years left. So you're looking at practically indefinite cellaring potential. Enjoy! not quite the same thing but year before last, judging in a comp in helsinki for the greatest wine of the 70s, all blind of course, we tasted a 1974 Heitz Martha's Vineyard. what a stunning wine. still amazingly alive with a future. wow! it had the slight misfortune to be placed immediately before the 1971 Grange (and if you get a bottle in great condition, it is miraculous and this one was in superb condition) which was tough as the grange won the entire comp (before you think aussie palates, the judges were from all over the place). but the heitz was only a whisker behind it. best american wine i have ever seen (by a weird chance, as i am typing this, i have just got an email from one of the other judges). by chance, at the next comp in helsinki last year (1900 to the 70s) another penfolds wine, the Bin 60A 1962, won the entire thing against some extraordinary competition. it is often considered the greatest wine ever made in australia and it was the wine that, when it was served (blind, so no one knew what it was) at a winemakers dinner in the states a few decades ago, had the famous Andre Tchelistcheff (from Beaulieu but he also consulted to Heitz around then) rise to his feet and address all the other winemakers, "gentlemen, you will stand in the presence of this wine". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirVantes Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said: not quite the same thing but year before last, judging in a comp in helsinki for the greatest wine of the 70s, all blind of course, we tasted a 1974 Heitz Martha's Vineyard. what a stunning wine. still amazingly alive with a future. wow! it had the slight misfortune to be placed immediately before the 1971 Grange (and if you get a bottle in great condition, it is miraculous and this one was in superb condition) which was tough as the grange won the entire comp (before you think aussie palates, the judges were from all over the place). but the heitz was only a whisker behind it. best american wine i have ever seen (by a weird chance, as i am typing this, i have just got an email from one of the other judges). by chance, at the next comp in helsinki last year (1900 to the 70s) another penfolds wine, the Bin 60A 1962, won the entire thing against some extraordinary competition. it is often considered the greatest wine ever made in australia and it was the wine that, when it was served (blind, so no one knew what it was) at a winemakers dinner in the states a few decades ago, had the famous Andre Tchelistcheff (from Beaulieu but he also consulted to Heitz around then) rise to his feet and address all the other winemakers, "gentlemen, you will stand in the presence of this wine". Interesting on the '71 Grange, Ken. It's never been on my radar, even though '71 is my year. Having said that, I doubt I'd ever consider it, given Grange prices especially for historic aged stuff. It's a blessing that 1971 was a middling vintage at best for most regions, and a curse that it was a great one in Barolo (which is my thing). At least the '71 Bartolo Mascarello is still within the reach of the non-oligarchal. But one day, somehow, the '71 Monfortino... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirVantes Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 And I would never have pegged Finland as a hotbed of fine wine tastings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Gargett Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 25 minutes ago, SirVantes said: Interesting on the '71 Grange, Ken. It's never been on my radar, even though '71 is my year. Having said that, I doubt I'd ever consider it, given Grange prices especially for historic aged stuff. It's a blessing that 1971 was a middling vintage at best for most regions, and a curse that it was a great one in Barolo (which is my thing). At least the '71 Bartolo Mascarello is still within the reach of the non-oligarchal. But one day, somehow, the '71 Monfortino... 71 was a cracker year in australia for reds. finland is home to the Fine Wine group of wine mags which are all around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirVantes Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Ken Gargett said: 71 was a cracker year in australia for reds. finland is home to the Fine Wine group of wine mags which are all around the world. And I came here to learn cigars Thanks, Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sengjc Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Four magnums of the 2008 R Wine the Wine Shiraz.A rather luxuriously packaged wine: heavy matte black bottles sporting a psychedelic barcode motif, individually housed in heavy cardboard boxes complete with outer cartons.Weighing in at 17.8% alc with about 3 years in oak, this would be a massive wine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Gargett Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 13 hours ago, sengjc said: Four magnums of the 2008 R Wine the Wine Shiraz. A rather luxuriously packaged wine: heavy matte black bottles sporting a psychedelic barcode motif, individually housed in heavy cardboard boxes complete with outer cartons. Weighing in at 17.8% alc with about 3 years in oak, this would be a massive wine. always interested to see what you have picked up but this one has me a bit stumped. most of your choices tie in with a lot of my preferences (i guess half the fun is that not everyone likes the same stuff - evans always used to say it would be the same as if every man liked the same woman, wouldn't she be tired!). i checked it out as much as i could. one of chris ringland's - he has been a bit of a cult fave and does make some cracker wines but 17.8% and not fortified?? and three years in oak? i'll be very interested to see what you think - personally i would not go near this one with the proverbial barge pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Gargett Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ken Gargett said: always interested to see what you have picked up but this one has me a bit stumped. most of your choices tie in with a lot of my preferences (i guess half the fun is that not everyone likes the same stuff - evans always used to say it would be the same as if every man liked the same woman, wouldn't she be tired!). i checked it out as much as i could. one of chris ringland's - he has been a bit of a cult fave and does make some cracker wines but 17.8% and not fortified?? and three years in oak? i'll be very interested to see what you think - personally i would not go near this one with the proverbial barge pole. ps - rob would love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sengjc Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 always interested to see what you have picked up but this one has me a bit stumped. most of your choices tie in with a lot of my preferences (i guess half the fun is that not everyone likes the same stuff - evans always used to say it would be the same as if every man liked the same woman, wouldn't she be tired!). i checked it out as much as i could. one of chris ringland's - he has been a bit of a cult fave and does make some cracker wines but 17.8% and not fortified?? and three years in oak? i'll be very interested to see what you think - personally i would not go near this one with the proverbial barge pole. ps - rob would love it! Haha, I actually got them because they are 17.8% and not fortified. I would imagine this would have been one of those manufactured wines targeting the "Parkerised" palate back in the day - wouldn't be surprised if they cost a bit back then too. I got these because I wanted to see if they hold up to some age. That and I have some mates who would enjoy this style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Gargett Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 1 minute ago, sengjc said: Haha, I actually got them because they are 17.8% and not fortified. I would imagine this would have been one of those manufactured wines targeting the "Parkerised" palate back in the day - wouldn't be surprised if they cost a bit back then too. I got these because I wanted to see if they hold up to some age. That and I have some mates who would enjoy this style. chris ringland was a huge parker favourite and i'm sure it was intended along those lines. but he also made/makes plenty of good stuff. i suspect it would have been after the huge dollars, though by 08, the train had largely left the station. there was a bit of a "contest" between some winemakers to see how high they could get the alcohol. insane. and yes, i'll bet they were costly back then. all yours.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sengjc Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 And now for something more sensible, a couple of bottles of the recently released 2015 Te Mata Estate Coleraine - these will be for the long haul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sengjc Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 all yours.... Ah yes, at a fraction of the price. I see they are being sold for more but at $60 a magnum at the auctions - I'll bet these are excellent value for the barbe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarveyBoulevard Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Ran out...stocked a little back up... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Little day trip to the Hunter Valley yesterday Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickEwing Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Grabbed a few more bottles of the 2010 Muga Selección Especial the other day. That is good stuff. Highly recommend and very decent price outside the confines of the Maple Leaf. Anyone have thoughts on the various Muga offerings? I had a disappointing Prado Enea (believe 2006?) a couple months back. Found it austere and tight (gave it a decent decant). Have a few 06 left and one 05. Will see how they go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Luca said: Little day trip to the Hunter Valley yesterday Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Just Tamburlaine? No Audrey Wilkinson, Bimbadgen Estates, Tulloch (I really like their Verdelho), Petersons (great Bortrytis Semillon), Margan or..... oh, there are so many! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Fuzz said: Just Tamburlaine? No Audrey Wilkinson, Bimbadgen Estates, Tulloch (I really like their Verdelho), Petersons (great Bortrytis Semillon), Margan or..... oh, there are so many! Hey Fuzz! We did have lunch at Bimbadgen (Esca Bimbadgen Restuarant) for Carly's Birthday yesterday. We both had the 5 course set menu with paired wines. It was great! It was a long lunch though as a result we didn't have much time to visit any other wineries besides from Tamburlaine. We were hoping to go to Krinklewood but they were closed Petersons was closed too I am glad I went to Tamburlaine though. They stopped selling their Pinot Noir Chardonnay (Alannah) which I absolutely love. After telling the staff how upset I was that there were no more bottles for sale - they actually found that they had a couple of boxes in the warehouse. They didn't realise they had them. I was pretty stoked! Oh well! Good excuse for another trip!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirVantes Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Caroni 20 year old Trinidad rum bottled by Velier at a whopping 70.1% abv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sengjc Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Another bottle of the Springbank 9 Year Old Barolo Cask Matured.Sufficiently impressed with this release, I have had to obtain another bottle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lant63 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Went through a duty coming back from a quick casino trip with some friends. Decided to go with these. Caol Ila and Balvenie are regulars. The lagavulin is a new one for me. We cracked them open before I could snap a picture. Side note has anyone tried glenkinchie 12 if so what are your thoughts? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sengjc Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Just one more bottle of the Springbank 9 Year Old Barolo Cask.This time flanked by a couple of bottles of independent bottling, single cask cognac - bottled at cask strength. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Lant63 said: Went through a duty coming back from a quick casino trip with some friends. Decided to go with these. Caol Ila and Balvenie are regulars. The lagavulin is a new one for me. We cracked them open before I could snap a picture. Side note has anyone tried glenkinchie 12 if so what are your thoughts? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Glenkinchie is nothing special imo. Certainly not bad, just kind of smooth and boring lacking character and depth. Nothing like that beauty Lagavulin 16 that I am surprised u have never tried! How did you like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lant63 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Glenkinchie is nothing special imo. Certainly not bad, just kind of smooth and boring lacking character and depth. Nothing like that beauty Lagavulin 16 that I am surprised u have never tried! How did you like it?Initially it's a bit strong in the peat department almost overpoweringly so. But, I let it sit for about 20-30 min and the ice (I know, very shameful) helped open it up a lot. I thought it was fabulous. Such a wide range of flavors, and at the duty free price well worth it. I have recently started drinking peated scotch a lot more. I demolished a bottle of ardbeg ten, and I really enjoy caol Ila 12 too. Now I am looking for more peated scotch to try. I think lag 12 & 8 as well as ardbeg uigeadial will be my next purchases. Any recommendations? I'm even interested in independent bottlers. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Lant63 said: I have recently started drinking peated scotch a lot more. I demolished a bottle of ardbeg ten, and I really enjoy caol Ila 12 too. Now I am looking for more peated scotch to try. I think lag 12 & 8 as well as ardbeg uigeadial will be my next purchases. Any recommendations? I'm even interested in independent bottlers. Try Bruichladdich Octomore 7.1. Very peaty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lant63 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Try Bruichladdich Octomore 7.1. Very peaty!Just picked up a bottle of 7.3 I saw that it had better reviews on whiskyfun.com Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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