Ken Gargett Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 great week for queenslanders. first, the origin (again) and tonight, a glorious victory against the great crusaders to win the super 15 title. MAGNIFICENT. i had tears pouring down my face at full time. all is right with the world tonight, flu or not. i swear, 40 minutes after fulltime, the only people that had left the stadium were the crusaders team (who didn't even have the good grace to wait for the reds captain's speech - they might be a great team but they could learn a few basic manners). to be honest, that sort of behaviour just made it even sweeter.
gigabyte056 Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 Great to see you are still alive. At least for you it's winter there, I am down with the cold in the middle of the bloody summer and it's 35c outside...
skindiver Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 Whilst I have no idea of which you are speaking of, Ken, I'm glad you have tears for it. Kinda like watching your Redskins in the NFL? Crybaby!
Ken Gargett Posted July 9, 2011 Author Posted July 9, 2011 Whilst I have no idea of which you are speaking of, Ken, I'm glad you have tears for it. Kinda like watching your Redskins in the NFL?Crybaby! stan, complete opposite (was i that obtuse?). imagine the once glorious redskins having been even worse than they are, over the last decade, and turning it all around to come from nowhere to win the bowl next year, against huge odds, every step of the way. then you'd be close.
benjaminbbush Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 I am confused, again. I hate to jump on the "bag on Ken" bandwagon, but are you talking about a sport or a telenovella? Either way, which one?
Ken Gargett Posted July 10, 2011 Author Posted July 10, 2011 I am confused, again. I hate to jump on the "bag on Ken" bandwagon, but are you talking about a sport or a telenovella? Either way, which one? nice!! and that from a country that treats baseball as a serious sport - it is more serious than synchronised swimming, i'll grant you, though only just. the most serious international rugby tournament outside internationals themselves - the super 15 rugby competition. 5 sides each from australia, new zealand and south africa (this would be one of those football codes where the players actually wear less padding than a piano being moved). up until the mid 90s, queensland was far and away the greatest provincial side on the planet. then we had a blip for a decade and a half (perhaps better described as we went from the best to absolute dire dross). we're back, baby!!
Ken Gargett Posted July 10, 2011 Author Posted July 10, 2011 i should add, that when i said 'they said it couldn't be done', i was referring to comments posted on this very forum. they seem to have gone very quiet. perhaps those people are currently away, or sick, or dead.
ndtoronto Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Nice win by the Reds this morning! First half was slow but the action in the second half made up for it. The commentators had to eat their words, saying the Reds were just "hanging on" Very impressive run by 11 if I recall correctly Looking forward to the Tri Nations and then the RWC
brutusthebuckeye Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Ken i think i get it.......it would be like the Cleveland Browns winning the super bowl for me...Did ur team ever leave for another city and then comeback 5 years later and have a decade of STINK??
ndtoronto Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Ken i think i get it.......it would be like the Cleveland Browns winning the super bowl for me...Did ur team ever leave for another city and then comeback 5 years later and have a decade of STINK?? More along the lines of the Buckeyes winning the NC this coming season
Ken Gargett Posted July 10, 2011 Author Posted July 10, 2011 Ken i think i get it.......it would be like the Cleveland Browns winning the super bowl for me...Did ur team ever leave for another city and then comeback 5 years later and have a decade of STINK?? pretty much 15 years of stink but the systems here mean that the reds could never leave. they are not "private ownership" in the same way as american teams.
brutusthebuckeye Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 More along the lines of the Buckeyes winning the NC this coming season LOL!!!!! Some marginal years ahead for The Buckeyes for sure!!!!!
frenchkiwi Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 glad the Reds helping take the edge off your flu... they helped my TAB balance although i had some anxious moments as the crusaders dominated territory destroyed the reds scrum (no surprise) but the reds defence was superb and the crusaders fell apart - more handling mistakes and overthrown lineouts than we've seen from them all season. and crusaders defence certainly wasn't up to reds standards shadowing genia for 50m without tackling or leaving a couple of 20m gaps for digby to chose from. the reds stuck to their gameplan perfectly as they have all year defend defend and wait for mistakes to pounce on. Genia had a great game (apart from some stupid chips from the ruck that both halfbacks seemed to be doing eg ioane try), Cooper invisible under pressure as usual, Ioane one great run, Brad "Bronco" Thorn towering, SBW actually had a decent game, Mccaw shocker 3 knockons. In the end the bookies got it wrong, no finals have been won away from home in 10years, don't see how a team doing 3 continents in 3 weeks was going to change that. great victory for Reds, in home stadium with great atmosphere! And yes even dickinson was there on the sideline cheering them on ;-)
Ken Gargett Posted July 10, 2011 Author Posted July 10, 2011 glad the Reds helping take the edge off your flu... they helped my TAB balance although i had some anxious moments as the crusaders dominated territory destroyed the reds scrum (no surprise) but the reds defence was superb and the crusaders fell apart - more handling mistakes and overthrown lineouts than we've seen from them all season. and crusaders defence certainly wasn't up to reds standards shadowing genia for 50m without tackling or leaving a couple of 20m gaps for digby to chose from. the reds stuck to their gameplan perfectly as they have all year defend defend and wait for mistakes to pounce on. Genia had a great game (apart from some stupid chips from the ruck that both halfbacks seemed to be doing eg ioane try), Cooper invisible under pressure as usual, Ioane one great run, Brad "Bronco" Thorn towering, SBW actually had a decent game, Mccaw shocker 3 knockons. In the end the bookies got it wrong, no finals have been won away from home in 10years, don't see how a team doing 3 continents in 3 weeks was going to change that. great victory for Reds, in home stadium with great atmosphere! And yes even dickinson was there on the sideline cheering them on ;-) no disrespect, of course, but i'd disagree completely on cooper. he cocked up not tackling carter on the line and forcing a wider kick but chances are carter would have kicked it anyway. that said, his quick hands gave space for the first try and no cooper, genia doesn't get his try. we could argue about many other things but a crucial role in two tries in a game won two tries to one is hardly invisible. go back to the last time the reds beat them. genia bolts 40 metres down the blind to score and we win by a point. where was the defence? all over cooper, leaving genia space. cooper has them so scared they cannot dare not focus on him and hence his presence simply costs them. what he has done gives others space. ditto genia's try in the final. watch the replay and the crusaders defence all held off genia because they had cooper backing up. they were far more scared of cooper getting it and forgot all about actually tackling genia. but if cooper doesn't back him up like that, no way the defence would not have shut him down way short of the line. and i can only sympathise with what must be hell for a kiwi, having your own ref so left to have a dig at the linesman? same linesman who came on at the end because he can't stand not being in the spotlight to come up with some crap and give the ball to the kiwis with a minute to go. and nice to know that nz is now a continent?
asmith Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 It was a great night and a great victory. I lost it at the ref several times for not doing the job he is paid to do. In the end the right team won I was hugging people in the stand who had been through all the crap years with me, well done boys. I will defend the Crusaders only just a little bit Ken. Granted they did leave before the Reds acceptance speech but they had presented the Reds the trophy and they were all partying and it did look like they presentations were all over and our captain wasn't going to speak.
Ken Gargett Posted July 10, 2011 Author Posted July 10, 2011 It was a great night and a great victory. I lost it at the ref several times for not doing the job he is paid to do. In the end the right team won I was hugging people in the stand who had been through all the crap years with me, well done boys.I will defend the Crusaders only just a little bit Ken. Granted they did leave before the Reds acceptance speech but they had presented the Reds the trophy and they were all partying and it did look like they presentations were all over and our captain wasn't going to speak. one would hope that was the case but it still looked pretty poor, and you are talking about the nation where the entire team, bar jonah lomu to his eternal credit, walked off in that world cup semi where france beat them and refused to shake any hands. they have form. there were what appeared to be some pretty ordinary moments by the ref - offsides and obstructions that were not, shall we say, a level playing field but i'll watch the replay to make sure. but whether it was or not, it was one more screaming reason for independent refs. so easy to have them and then we only have to worry about incompetence. takes away the perception. a deliberate trip doesn't get a yellow card? that is a disgrace. had it been a south african ref, we could have said it was a poor decision. with a kiwi ref, there is the perception of bias, like it or not. and had it been an aussie ref that gave him a card, then kiwis could argue it was unfair.
Kangaroo495 Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 What about the Bris Lions? Can't win em all eh? Go the Hawks!
Ken Gargett Posted July 11, 2011 Author Posted July 11, 2011 What about the Bris Lions? Can't win em all eh? Go the Hawks! we are keen to promote minor sports as well. and happy to take three flags a decade. currently, a minor blip of the sorts the reds endured two years ago. but if i could arrange for the lions to enjoy the spoon every year in exchange for reds' wins, happy to.
Wil Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 we are keen to promote minor sports as well.and happy to take three flags a decade. currently, a minor blip of the sorts the reds endured two years ago. but if i could arrange for the lions to enjoy the spoon every year in exchange for reds' wins, happy to. Think that might be in the works. Not sure this is your decade.
Wil Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 Oh and speaking of minor sports, obviously you're not counting crowds or dollars
Ken Gargett Posted July 11, 2011 Author Posted July 11, 2011 Oh and speaking of minor sports, obviously you're not counting crowds or dollars rugby world cup is the third largest sporting event on the planet behind the soccer and the olympics. not really that minor.
Wil Posted July 12, 2011 Posted July 12, 2011 rugby world cup is the third largest sporting event on the planet behind the soccer and the olympics. not really that minor. Pretty sure that hasn't started yet...
frenchkiwi Posted July 12, 2011 Posted July 12, 2011 and i can only sympathise with what must be hell for a kiwi, having your own ref so left to have a dig at the linesman? ken, don't take the bait too easily... dickinson, who i know you love, had a great touchline game which fortunately consisted only of regularly giving kickers from both sides an extra 10m for their touch clearances. just thank heavens he wasn't in the middle he might have given it to the crusaders this time. cooper was solid enough in that he was well marked and yet only made a few of his - formerly trademarked - mistakes like that pass to the touch judge. for a tokoroa boy he was well quiet even compared to his highschool mate maitland (who did a great job of chaperoning genia over his last 30m to the line). quade's most spectacular move was his Italian Footballer Dive over brad thorn's leg when he realised he'd stuffed up a kick (i agree, it was deserving of a yellow card for simulation ;-). genia made mistakes as you'd expect when your team is struggling at the ruck, but also created opportunities. i have to go with smithy as well, they were meant to deliver the speech straight after opposite captains, as is always the case after every game, if you want to accuse someone of disrespect then you're looking at the wrong team... but i think we'll excuse the reds for whom it has been a 15 year wait!
frenchkiwi Posted July 12, 2011 Posted July 12, 2011 a deliberate trip doesn't get a yellow card? that is a disgrace. had it been a south african ref, we could have said it was a poor decision. with a kiwi ref, there is the perception of bias, like it or not. and had it been an aussie ref that gave him a card, then kiwis could argue it was unfair. i agree, perception of bias, whether substantiated or not, matters. and i don't know why they can't just appoint a ref from the other country in every game. i think they got scared last year when there were not enough australian refs up to standard and made the change. maybe you could get yourself a whistle ken and sort it out? FoH could sponsor your shirt and halftime cigar.
El Presidente Posted July 12, 2011 Posted July 12, 2011 i agree, perception of bias, whether substantiated or not, matters. and i don't know why they can't just appoint a ref from the other country in every game. i think they got scared last year when there were not enough australian refs up to standard and made the change. maybe you could get yourself a whistle ken and sort it out? FoH could sponsor your shirt and halftime cigar. Bring on the World Cup Seriously, the fact that the Kiwis are worried is music to my ears! I have nothing but respect for Kiwi Rugby ( I back them everytime the play NSW "Tahs)....but to beat you on home soil would be just the entree for rolling you into "Oztralia" in a pecking order level or just behind Tasmania The S15 final was full of flaws from both teams and officialdom. Still, we beat crusaders last round regular comp, beat Blues, won final. Excuses a plenty, result the same. See you in NZ!
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