6x60 Cigars;The New American Trend!

[SCgarman]

Here in the States, it seems that more and more of the NC cigar companies that market cigars here are jumping on this bandwagon. These cigars are literally "jawbreakers" with a massive 60 ring guage and a 6 inch length. These things are totally ridiculous in my opinion and I fail to see the logic. My ring limit is 50 and I prefer any ring guage between 40 and 50 and have started to appreciate the PC size sticks. I sure hope the fad dies and Cuba does not decide to follow this trend. Any opinions??

[Colt45]

BHK 56

BHK 54

[SCgarman]

Point taken but these are the only 2 right? So far.

[CaptainQuintero]

That's so yesterday it's all about 85 ring guage now!

Nb. Don't go to his channel unless you have some talcum powder at the ready!

[CaptainQuintero]

145 ring guage....

[bc8436]

Point taken but these are the only 2 right? So far.

Technically all the Piramides are 52 ...

There's also the Cohiba Maduro 5 ... and Cuabas ... lol

But I agree with your original point about the 6X60 trend. Saw a Jaime Garcia (by Don 'Pepper') that's 5.75x66 at the local B&M. A couple of people were saying how it's "a great full-flavored cigar."

[BobKincaid]

Hate 'em.

Like you, I don't go much over 50, maybe to 52. Anything above that, I dub a "pornogar." But you're absolutely right: the NC industry can't seem to make enough of these fatties to keep up. It's actually become fairly difficult to find a really good lancero or lonsdale anymore, and that's a pity, because there's a ton of flavor in there.

I read somewhere recently that there's a trend to "modernize" cigar marketing for a "new generation of smokers." At the tender age of 48, I guess I Just.Don't.Get.It

Somebody reach me my walker . . .

[Lotusguy]

Before I knew better, I had a bunch of those "sixties". Now I do know better and am staying FAR away from those... (reminds me, I need to get rid of the last remaining Rocky Patel Vintage 6x60 in my humi )

Having said that, can't blame the manufacturers for making what sells well. We all just have to vote with our wallets for the long and skinnies.

[SCgarman]

Lotusguy, use that 6x60 to light fireworks for the 4th of July!

[mkz]

There is something strangely homoerotic about these donkey-dongs!

Personally my limit nowadays is 48. I dont buy anything above that mark anymore.

[Scdalak]

this seems to be an on going trend, not sure of the logic behind it, but ever since th "NUB" phenomena more and more NC and Dominican makers are jumping on the trend. Personally just don't understand it, guess it's the fashionable thing to smoke, cool to be seen with one? just nonsense

[genevapics]

I think it is a reflection of our society; bigger must be better. If it is more expensive, then it has to be better. Much the same with instant gratification. No one is willing to wait for anything anymore; we must have it now, today or better yet... yesterday.

As long as people enjoy those large cigars, then there is nothing wrong with it, IMO. It is when people feel they must have it, because Joe Plumber has it, that is where I have a problem with it. And from a business POV, how can you get mad at companies that are in the business to make money? I just wish they would spend some of the profits and keep they old thing gauge cigars in stock.

[NitrousPurger]

I feel a lot of things that NC's do is just for marketing and to have something different and newer than the competition, rather than having a truly better cigar

[duwan]

Yep, I get all the catalouges and emails for people pushing all these 6 x 60 cigars. IMO, it's just too damned much cigar. Personally, the biggest thing I will smoke is a robusto, except for the rare churchill on the golf course. Mostly though, I stick with the petite stuff.

[Martindelmundo]

I do enjoy goign to the states and buy up some sticks because the taxes are so low, I have smoked a total of two 6o ring cigars and I will smoke no more. I don't like the format ( something that size don't belong in my mouth). And it kind of seems to me that the flavors get mixed up so you can't figure out what your smoking. 56 is exceeding my comfort zone. Figurado shapes like Belicosos do come in a 52 but its tapered so you don't notice. I can go to a 54 but over that I don't care for. 40 -50 my favs.

[zathan]

I do enjpy some of the big ring gages like the wide Churchil, Edmundo and Genios. I had my first Robusto T last night and honestly, I thought the first third was a bit too light and laking caracter specifically because of the gage.

Anyway, they can make those monsters as much as they like I won't buy them.

[ramon_cojones]

I think it is a reflection of our society; bigger must be better. If it is more expensive, then it has to be better. Much the same with instant gratification. No one is willing to wait for anything anymore; we must have it now, today or better yet... yesterday.

As long as people enjoy those large cigars, then there is nothing wrong with it, IMO. It is when people feel they must have it, because Joe Plumber has it, that is where I have a problem with it. And from a business POV, how can you get mad at companies that are in the business to make money? I just wish they would spend some of the profits and keep they old thing gauge cigars in stock.

Excellent post, especially the first paragraph. Such a shame really.

While I am no ring gauge snob, I find 52 right about my limit and I enjoy everything from panetelas and lanceros to double coronas and such with robustos being my favorite vitola. The phoenicia is 54 and quite good, didn't enjoy the bhk 56 and those two did feel awkward while being smoked. I must say, if I know I am going to be in a public setting I really enjoy smoking lanceros as there is such a pimp factor in such a small rg

[bacalao]

I had a cigar for lunch at the B&M near work when the store owner had a sales rep in the store. He told the rep he can sell any cigar in a 6x60 size. Haven't been back since.

[cigcars]

*To the guy in the video - Taper the end, son, taper the end!! That way you won't look like a cartoon character! As for the new batches of 60 ring gauge+ ***Right when you guys got me to trying (and now loving) petite coronas and slenderella sizes! Once upon a time I would have NEVER had the time of day for these sizes. But after reading these threads and opinions here, I've learned to have new appreciation for them. Thanks. I think !

[Maron76]

I think it is Indian Tabac that has an 8x60 size. I wonder if that comes wrapped in cellophane or a condom?

[Ginseng]

I don't think there's anything inherently "wrong" with a 60-ring cigar. As Andre noted, to each their own. However, I do feel just a bit of sadness when I think about the current generation eschewing thinner ring (even 42-44) because they've not availed themselves of an excellent cigar in that size. It's a different experience and one modern new smokers may not get the chance to explore because of the dearth of quality offerings. A quick look through the major U.S. retailers' catalogs will reveal this deficit quite readily.

Wilkey

[Colt45]

I don't think there's anything inherently "wrong" with a 60-ring cigar. As Andre noted, to each their own.

Though I consider such gauges ludicrous, of course it's up to the individual smoker - but I wonder........

When a producer decides to come out with such a behemoth, are they thinking - "I've got this great blend in mind that will require a 60 ring gauge",

or is it - "we need a 60 ring - how are we going to fill it?".

[Ginseng]

Though I consider such gauges ludicrous, of course it's up to the individual smoker - but I wonder........

When a producer decides to come out with such a behemoth, are they thinking - "I've got this great blend in mind that will require a 60 ring gauge",

or is it - "we need a 60 ring - how are we going to fill it?".

Hehe, of course.

The calculation probably goes something like this.

- I've got X pounds of tobacco.

- How can I get the maximum return per pound?

........5.5" x 44 ring cigars would sell at a rate of X$/day returning net profit of Z$/pound

........6.0" x 60 ring cigars would sell at a rate of nX$/day returning net profit of mZ$/pound (both n and m >1)

- Print up some big bands and build some big boxes.

- Count the moolah!

Wilkey

[Colt45]

Hehe, of course.

The calculation probably goes something like this.

- I've got X pounds of tobacco.

- How can I get the maximum return per pound?

........5.5" x 44 ring cigars would sell at a rate of X$/day returning net profit of Z$/pound

........6.0" x 60 ring cigars would sell at a rate of nX$/day returning net profit of mZ$/pound (both n and m >1)

- Print up some big bands and build some big boxes.

- Count the moolah!

Wilkey

I'll have to trust you with the math

I'm thinking blend-wise - how do you fill such fat cigars? The spin is that often it allows for greater complexity, while the reality can often be large scale imbalance.

And personally, I look past country of origin when it comes to this trend. When and how did it all start? Were consumers clamoring for jaw breakers, or did a

producer create something that for whatever reason caught on inviting followers.

I have to believe that if the current trends were for thinner gauges, the BHKs, for example, would not be 52 to 56 ring in sizes. If anything, Habanos are the

trend followers - while they continue to produce fatter and fatter cigars, a number of NC producers have, over the past couple of years gone back to more

moderate / historical sizes, and from what I have read, with good success.

[Habanakane21]

Big ring gauges don't bug me so much. I personally don't smoke too many of them. 50 is the max for me. All my friends smoke NC that look like a great dane ****. They're huge. To each his own.