That lighter Rob uses?

[bobsled]

Love "The Burner" by Alec Bradley http://www.amazon.com/Alec-Bradley-Burner-Table-Lighter/dp/B001CZJMT2

[CanuckSARTech]

Canuck, pure aesthetics and the size of the flame in relation to the lighter. I've yet to have a problem lighting outdoors with it, and it can get pretty windy where I am. When it's really blowing outside it can be difficult to start, but then again, you wouldn't want to smoke in those conditions anyway.

You'd think a triple flame torch lighter that big would have a fairly significant flame? Heck, my Blazer EVO has a near 3 inch flame when turned up to max after a fill (mind your eyebrows! ). Maybe it's just my one, or perhaps needs a fill?

Who knows. Mark? Is that about a normal flame to be expected with this model?

[CanuckSARTech]

Love "The Burner" by Alec Bradley http://www.amazon.com/Alec-Bradley-Burner-Table-Lighter/dp/B001CZJMT2

Oh gawd. Maybe it's just me, but I hate this lighter.

I've seen it come up a couple of times before, and a retailer that I frequently deal with tried to get me interested in one of those when I asked him about the Vector tri-pump, which he didn't sell.

That AB lighter reminds me of old mosquito foggers from the 70's and 80's here in Canada. They were a type of burner/fogger that you loaded with kerosene and then some type of bug/mosquito fogging chemical, and then you fogged an area, a ditch, the side of a building, etc., to keep bugs away for X number of weeks/months. They were noisy, ugly, smelly contraptions. So, maybe it's just the mental connection to that, but I don't want to try to be enjoying my cigar, when I'm being repulsed by my lighter.

[redlir]

Vector Thundra Table Torch.

Our first one did over 5000 cigars before retired. This second one is going the same way.

inexpensive, effective.

Our Mate Mark Neff has them in the US

http://www.cigarmony.com/vectortabletorches.aspx

Thanks again for the referal. I just pulled the trigger on one of these!

[Wicky]

I might upgrade to what Wicky has. LOL.

Don't underestimate The TS 4000 Leaf. Only $38.95 and you could get a solid light in a hurricane! Not to mention lighting wood fires,BBQs and plumbing copper pipe among other things.

[Colt45]

Don't underestimate The TS 4000 Leaf.

Another option that members here mentioned years ago is a creme brulee torch, which are available at a number of home type stores.

[CanuckSARTech]

Another option that members here mentioned years ago is a creme brulee torch, which are available at a number of home type stores.

That's my "in the garage torch", one of those. My excuse to my wife when I bought it was, "it's a tool." Needless to say, I only use it when I'm in the garage, and coincidentally smoking a cigar!

[gsmoke]

Being a Perdomo logo, I assume this is the Thundra model you're talking about.

Try picking up some Vector Quintuplus fuel from Willam Sonoma.

It's the cleanest burning fuel I've found and many times "fixes" lighters with problems (problems not due to defects that is).

You'd be surprised how many previously dead lighters have come back to life by switching to this fuel.

I hope this helps

~Mark

Hey Mark

Thanks for the reply. That is actually the fuel I use, though I never tried it on the first model that seemed to crap out on me. Do you have any tips for cleaning out and purging lighters? Or maybe I'll start fresh with a model from your site.

Thx

[n2advnture]

Hey Mark

Thanks for the reply. That is actually the fuel I use, though I never tried it on the first model that seemed to crap out on me. Do you have any tips for cleaning out and purging lighters? Or maybe I'll start fresh with a model from your site.

Thx

The problem is most likely from an air bubble trapped in the tank which happens a lot when refilling and during altitude changes (pressure change).

To remedy, purge the tank of ALL the butane. This may require pushing the fill valve many, many times until absolutely no more comes out and then refill as normal (sometimes shaking the lighter a little as you get to the very end of purging helps get all the existing fuel out).

Let the lighter stand for about 5 minutes every time you re-fuel. Butane is extremely cold and the lighter needs to come back up to temp before lighting.

I hope this helps

~Mark

[redlir]

Lighter arrived today. Looks and feels like a million bucks for sure!

[bcwv]

Many feel the same way. I can certainly smell the zippo, but I can also smell my butane lighters, especially after extinguishing the flame. I've just

never tasted lighter fluid or butane after lighting a cigar.

But I also don't subscribe to a number of commonly held beliefs, for instance plume being a sure sign of proper storage. Another is how to light a

cigar. Some feel that the proper way to light a cigar is to slowly toast the foot, never touching flame to tobacco, and that doing otherwise imparts

a burned taste.

My personal reality is that no matter how slowly or quickly, the result is the same - a blackened foot, a white foot - burned tobacco, with no difference

in flavor either way. For me personally, the slow toast is all for show.

But I really don't care how one cuts, lights or smokes their cigar. It doesn't matter to me if they draw every ten seconds, ash every other draw, smoke

with the band on or off, squash the nub in an ashtray when finished. One can remove the cap with their teeth or fingernails, a knife or cutter. They

can light it with a home stove, camp fire, cigar lighter or flame thrower.

I feel the biggest breach of cigar etiquette would be to try and tell anybody how to do any of the above.

Well said wow awesome

[arnehd]

From what I just heard a lot of people seem to love the vector tri-pump. The used to have them on the tables at the my preferred lounge in Duessledorf. When I was there two weeks ago no more tri-Pumps. Seems that several people where so happy with them, that they just couldn't put them down or mistook them them for free souvenirs.

Which really is a bugger, they were good.

I am still a fan of my xicar genesis, even though I'm going to have to send it to kansas because of burning issues.