That lighter Rob uses?

[redlir]

Can anyone tell me what brand that massive silver ligther is that Rob uses on the deck all the time? That thing is monstrous! I'd love to find one!

Maybe it 'is' this one? I"ve never seen it closed in the youtube vids so I'm not sure?

http://www.cigar-czar.com/store/cart.php?t...category_id=817

[El Presidente]

Can anyone tell me what brand that massive silver ligther is that Rob uses on the deck all the time? That thing is monstrous! I'd love to find one!

Vector Thundra Table Torch.

Our first one did over 5000 cigars before retired. This second one is going the same way.

inexpensive, effective.

Our Mate Mark Neff has them in the US

http://www.cigarmony.com/vectortabletorches.aspx

[Habanakane21]

Can anyone tell me what brand that massive silver ligther is that Rob uses on the deck all the time? That thing is monstrous! I'd love to find one!

Maybe it 'is' this one? I"ve never seen it closed in the youtube vids so I'm not sure?

http://www.cigar-czar.com/store/cart.php?t...category_id=817

I use one sorta like that one. My lighter is made by Lotus. Brushed Chrome, Triple flame....you can't go wrong with a table lighter. I love it.

[redlir]

Vector Thundra Table Torch.

Our first one did over 5000 cigars before retired. This second one is going the same way.

inexpensive, effective.

Our Mate Mark Neff has them in the US

http://www.cigarmony.com/vectortabletorches.aspx

Thanks! It looks so much bigger in hand than in the store shots. I have to get one of these!

[redlir]

I use one sorta like that one. My lighter is made by Lotus. Brushed Chrome, Triple flame....you can't go wrong with a table lighter. I love it.

Ya I'm using a xikar single flame at the moment. It does a decent job, but I'd like to get a multiflame for some of the bigger ring cigars I'm onto now. On the vids, it seems like a very no nonsense *pow* she's lit.

[Wicky]

I've always been happy with Blazer products. Inexpensive and they git er done!

[Wicky]

This my "home" lighter. And no, I'm not kidding.

[Fuzz]

Another good Vector table torch is the Tri-Pump. Got mine in gunmetal.

[godfathermint]

Interesting lighter! I've personally never liked torch lighters, I usually just light a strip of cedar from my boxes and light it using that =)

[Leopolis Semper Fidelis]

Interesting lighter! I've personally never liked torch lighters, I usually just light a strip of cedar from my boxes and light it using that =)

That's probably the best way to do it, as circumstances permit. However, a lighter (but not a Zippo!) is more flexible. As regards Zippos, I made the mistake of buying a Zippo Blu. It never worked properly, so it was soon disposed of.

[godfathermint]

That's probably the best way to do it, as circumstances permit. However, a lighter (but not a Zippo!) is more flexible. As regards Zippos, I made the mistake of buying a Zippo Bleu. It never worked properly, so it was soon disposed of.

Damn, I was considering a Zippo Blu =( I think if I ever buy a lighter it would be a natural flame lighter =D

[n2advnture]

Vector Thundra Table Torch.

Our first one did over 5000 cigars before retired. This second one is going the same way.

inexpensive, effective.

Our Mate Mark Neff has them in the US

http://www.cigarmony.com/vectortabletorches.aspx

Rob - It has a 5 year warranty, send it back to me and I'll get it exchanged. (although I already know what you're going to say - LOL!)

[Colt45]

I think if I ever buy a lighter it would be a natural flame lighter =D

Soft flames are great indoors, but can be a real pain outside. As for Zippos, I know some feel the originals impart some kind of taste, but in

years of use, I never tasted anything off. The only reason I stopped using it is because I smoke outdoors and got tired of dealing with the

soft flame in breezy / windy conditions.

[bob25]

That sound like a great lighter.

Anyone else having problem loading the Cigarmony site?

I tried all day and no luck.

http://www.cigarmony.com/vectortabletorches.aspx

[LeafLover]

I have same table lighter for home. Huge ass tank! Great for getting her started. I might upgrade to what Wicky has. LOL.

But, I use my Blazer for the touch ups and for when I'm away from home. Can you imagine lugging that table lighter in your front pocket?

[CanuckSARTech]

Another good Vector table torch is the Tri-Pump. Got mine in gunmetal.

Fuzz, you happy with yours?

I find this thread kind of funny, as I've just recently e-mailed Mark about getting one of those Tri-Pumps, in chrome and black.

All of my other lighters are very trusty (Colibri Ambiance gloss black, Xikar Enigma gunmetal, and lots of cedar strips), but the Vector lighters (both the Tri-Pump and the Thundra) have such a nice table presence when they're sitting there - real conversation pieces.

I too prefer the cedar strips, but it's just not an option sometimes unfortunately.

Colt - it may depend on the fluid, but I can heavily taste and smell it, using both standard Zippo fluid, or Ronsonol fluid. I've had a Zippo for years - used it as a cigarette smoker. But, it's sat in a box somewhere for 8 years or so now - I could taste/smell the difference big time, especially once I quit smoking, gave it a year or two, and then went back to cigars. Could just be my messed up brain, though, but I really notice it with fluid lighters (even the disposable Bic lighters). A clean-burning butane flame just doesn't impart that for me.

[Colt45]

I could taste/smell the difference big time....

Many feel the same way. I can certainly smell the zippo, but I can also smell my butane lighters, especially after extinguishing the flame. I've just

never tasted lighter fluid or butane after lighting a cigar.

But I also don't subscribe to a number of commonly held beliefs, for instance plume being a sure sign of proper storage. Another is how to light a

cigar. Some feel that the proper way to light a cigar is to slowly toast the foot, never touching flame to tobacco, and that doing otherwise imparts

a burned taste.

My personal reality is that no matter how slowly or quickly, the result is the same - a blackened foot, a white foot - burned tobacco, with no difference

in flavor either way. For me personally, the slow toast is all for show.

But I really don't care how one cuts, lights or smokes their cigar. It doesn't matter to me if they draw every ten seconds, ash every other draw, smoke

with the band on or off, squash the nub in an ashtray when finished. One can remove the cap with their teeth or fingernails, a knife or cutter. They

can light it with a home stove, camp fire, cigar lighter or flame thrower.

I feel the biggest breach of cigar etiquette would be to try and tell anybody how to do any of the above.

[CanuckSARTech]

Many feel the same way. I can certainly smell the zippo, but I can also smell my butane lighters, especially after extinguishing the flame. I've just

never tasted lighter fluid or butane after lighting a cigar.

But I also don't subscribe to a number of commonly held beliefs, for instance plume being a sure sign of proper storage. Another is how to light a

cigar. Some feel that the proper way to light a cigar is to slowly toast the foot, never touching flame to tobacco, and that doing otherwise imparts

a burned taste.

My personal reality is that no matter how slowly or quickly, the result is the same - a blackened foot, a white foot - burned tobacco, with no difference

in flavor either way. For me personally, the slow toast is all for show.

But I really don't care how one cuts, lights or smokes their cigar. It doesn't matter to me if they draw every ten seconds, ash every other draw, smoke

with the band on or off, squash the nub in an ashtray when finished. One can remove the cap with their teeth or fingernails, a knife or cutter. They

can light it with a home stove, camp fire, cigar lighter or flame thrower.

I feel the biggest breach of cigar etiquette would be to try and tell anybody how to do any of the above.

Well said.

I too don't get the slow roast thing - yes, burning is burning, what's the difference? The ashing thing has got to me before - I've had those that have harped on my style of doing this, as if this somehow negatively affected their experience.

The teeth and fingernail thing - that's just funny to see. I can't do it right (I bite my nails), so it's a bit of a wonderment to me when people do that and do it well. I've tried to do the bite, but I always end up looking like a goofball with tobacco in my teeth.

The only thing I like to do is warn people away from the lighter thing - I don't care what brand, or what method, etc. But, especially when around a newer cigar smoker, I like to tell them about the differences to look for with this and the fluid versus butane lighters - I've had quite a few amazed at the taste difference that they noticed. Again, imagined or real, who knows - but I notice it, so it can't hurt to pass along the info to maybe help their cigar experience. Hey, the best is still the cheapest - nice wooden matches, and/or ripped cedar strips from the separator sheets of empty boxes.

Don't get me wrong - if they don't ask, I don't run over from across the room to "instruct" them on the wrong lighter. And, I hope I haven't done that with any on here. But, if I'm asked, or a mention of it is made, I'll point it out - after that, it's completely their call.

Now, with a flame thrower, that could just be fun to watch....

[CanuckSARTech]

...I think if I ever buy a lighter it would be a natural flame lighter =D

Soft flames are great indoors, but can be a real pain outside...

I remember looking through some webpage a while back with the Vector lighters, and saw that they had a real nice looking table lighter that was a soft flame, leather-covered thing, in an older flint-wheel style. Very classy looking.

I can't remember the style/type/name of it, but the leather wrap sure stood out for me. Anyone have any knowledge/experience with this one, and whether the flame is adjustable enough to help with breezier conditions?

The brown leather looked so nice with the polished chrome.

[thechenman]

I too use something very similar to he table lighter El Presidente uses. Its a Lotus T3 I believe. Great triple flame lighter and has not failed me yet. It is getting a bit beat up after 3 years though. One thing however is that it is a pain to purge before refilling. When at home you can't beat a table lighter.

Like Canuck...I prefer soft flames as well, and do have serveral soft flame lighters, but as I do most of my smoking outdoors a torch lighter is more often than not my instrument of choice. I save the soft flame lighters for when I know I will be smoking indoors. That said, soft flame lighters are horrible at touching up a cigar.

Never been a big fan of matches or the cedar strips. Takes to long and is too much of a hassle.

Final word...used to love the Blazer lighters. I've had several PB-207s and Little Buddies. However, recently they've all begun to crap out on me. Granted some are a few years old, others a few months. What's going on here. Is there some production issue we need to be aware of. Sad...as I really love these lighters.

[Fuzz]

Fuzz, you happy with yours?

I find this thread kind of funny, as I've just recently e-mailed Mark about getting one of those Tri-Pumps, in chrome and black.

Quite happy with the Tri-Pump. As you can guess, it has a huge tank and is a great conversation piece. The only thing I'm disappointed with is the size of the flame. Even turned to max, the flame is only an inch or so long. For a table lighter, I kinda expected a much longer flame. Other than that, it is great.

[CanuckSARTech]

Quite happy with the Tri-Pump. As you can guess, it has a huge tank and is a great conversation piece. The only thing I'm disappointed with is the size of the flame. Even turned to max, the flame is only an inch or so long. For a table lighter, I kinda expected a much longer flame. Other than that, it is great.

Fuzz, thanks for the feedback.

Yeah, I'm talking to n2adventure (Mark) about ordering one from his webpage/store.

LOL. I kind of figured that it had a big tank, based on the design/size of it. LOL. That thing is a behemoth - but, I want something different for out on the deck, and this thing definitely fits the bill.

But, the flame - now, it's a torch, a tri-torch right? So, even with a 1-inch flame, that's still honkin' big, I would think, and more than enough for lighting your cigar? I mean, my pocket Colibri Ambiance is a single-flame torch, and is only about a 1/2 inch flame, and same flame size for my Xikar Enigma, except that it's a twin flame. So, a one inch tri-flame torch I would think still works quite well.

Do you mean that you have trouble lighting your cigars in the breeze with it, or are you just talking from a purely esthetics point-of-view, and considering the scale/size of the thing?

[gsmoke]

I have had two of these Vector lighters, both the Perdomo branded ones. The first one gave out on me after a couple months, the second makes me flick that button at least 10 times before the flame sticks. Maybe it's just me... Would love to know if there is something I should do to clean them or anything else. When it works I love it. Solid flame perfect for toasting and retouching but I am getting a sore thumb trying to keep this sucker on fire...

[Fuzz]

Canuck, pure aesthetics and the size of the flame in relation to the lighter. I've yet to have a problem lighting outdoors with it, and it can get pretty windy where I am. When it's really blowing outside it can be difficult to start, but then again, you wouldn't want to smoke in those conditions anyway.

You'd think a triple flame torch lighter that big would have a fairly significant flame? Heck, my Blazer EVO has a near 3 inch flame when turned up to max after a fill (mind your eyebrows! ). Maybe it's just my one, or perhaps needs a fill?

[n2advnture]

I have had two of these Vector lighters, both the Perdomo branded ones. The first one gave out on me after a couple months, the second makes me flick that button at least 10 times before the flame sticks. Maybe it's just me... Would love to know if there is something I should do to clean them or anything else. When it works I love it. Solid flame perfect for toasting and retouching but I am getting a sore thumb trying to keep this sucker on fire...

Being a Perdomo logo, I assume this is the Thundra model you're talking about.

Try picking up some Vector Quintuplus fuel from Willam Sonoma.

It's the cleanest burning fuel I've found and many times "fixes" lighters with problems (problems not due to defects that is).

You'd be surprised how many previously dead lighters have come back to life by switching to this fuel.

I hope this helps

~Mark