Padron Vs. Cohiba?

[jman]

Which do you think is the better cigar? Padron or Cohiba

[hsmunoz]

better, hmmm that is probubly not where I would go. They are different, and each an excellent example of thier regions. Padron is a more Consistent cigar, meaning I get what I expect everytime. Cohiba has more variation but that means that some of them are stellar. They are both worthy of space in my humi. If I want a creamy bean profile I grab an Espi, if I want dark coffee, and Cocoa, I grab a 40th. That's what makes cigars such a joy.

[Colt45]

Which is better - Californian or French cabernet?

Which is better - Porsche or Ferrari?

Which are better - bananas or mangos?

Which is better.................

[cigcars]

Well - I'm sort of with hsmnus & colt - the Padron 45th Anniversary and almost any properly aged Cohiba are both spectacular smokes. It's a matter of personal taste is what it all boils down to. I prefer Pizza Hut to Papa John's. Some of you all may differ. Is Oscar Myer better than Ball Park??? Do I prefer 7up to Sprite??? I believe that if it weren't for the aspect of the Embargo's making Forbidden Fruit desirable, and if Cuban cigars were as readibly available as Dominicans, Hondurans, etc., and if persons could choose their preference...some may actually prefer Padron to Cuban Cohiba. Then some people like Bleu Cheese, which I think tastes like soap, while I adore extra sharp Wisconsin cheddar cheese. Geez - this could go on and on! You guys get my drift!

[khomeinist]

Cohiba. Not even close. Blah Blah to all the relativistic nonsense. Have an opinion!

Padron isn't even consistent. Recent batches of the 1926 cigars have had either too much ligero or perhaps recent Nicaraguan tobacco crops haven't been stellar. The 1945 has been quite over-hyped. I can't even finish one. How do you even review a Padron in thirds? There is no change as the cigar develops.

Cohiba new releases are certainly over-hyped as well. That being said, the products usually deliver.

This isn't even close. Take a good representative of each at robusto, lancero, and churchill. In terms of complexity and age-worthiness? This match is over before the opening whistle.

Cohiba.

[AlexOk]

No doubt, the cigars of the two brands are both in the premium segment.

But IMO you can not compare the two brands. Each one is unique.

The similarities of the cigars: they are made from tobacco.

[cigaraholic]

There's no Ch. Latour in California.

There's no Porsche in F1.

Bananas or mangos, that's the tough one.

Cohiba

[khomeinist]

Which is better - Californian or French cabernet?

Which is better - Porsche or Ferrari?

Which are better - bananas or mangos?

Which is better.................

Ha. Fine.

French Bordeaux

Ferrari

Mangoes

Again. Not even close. Though I do like Porsche design from time to time.

[Colt45]

There's no Ch. Latour in California.

There's no Porsche in F1.

Bananas or mangos, that's the tough one.

Cohiba

There's no Stag's Leap in France

(see Paris wine tasting of 1976)

Porsche does a pretty good job in ALMS GT class.

What about papaya?

[cigaraholic]

Who needs Stag's Leap when you've got Pomerol.

I guess I do, cause I have lots wine from Stag's Leap and one bottle of Pomerol.

[laficion]

. Then some people like Bleu Cheese, which I think tastes like soap, while I adore extra sharp Wisconsin cheddar cheese. Geez - this could go on and on! You guys get my drift!

I love a great creamy ROQUEFORT cheese with a dark and perfect PIC ST.LOUP wine.

Period !!!!!!!!

[jman]

I think the Padron is a much better cigar. I love CC's and truly think they have a unique taste, but I also think there are several other great cigars from around the world. For me it's important to have a well rounded cigar pallette. It's sucks for us Americans because we have to jump through hoops just to get CC's, The Padron is much better, better taste, richer flavores, better quality. If Habanos SA can get thier quality control under wraps, then the whole game changes. Padron wins for me..

[habanohal]

No comparison and if it were it would go as.....

Padron = minivan

Cohiba + Ferrari

Havent touched anything non Cuban in many years and cant say that I ever will again.

[Guest rob]

Cohiba. Not even close. Blah Blah to all the relativistic nonsense. Have an opinion!

Khomies reply reminded me of the scene from Pulp Fiction.... where Vincent says to Mavin, just before accidently shooting him in the face, "...You gotta have an opinion"

Great response mate. I smoke cigars from all over the world - but I'm yet to find a cigar from a country other than Cuba, that inspires my taste buds (and other senses) like a Cohiba.

[jawofboston]

Padron's are nice NCs, but the reason I never smoke them is the cost; they are as much or more than some great CCs. If I'm smoking an NC I will generally go for something less expensive, like an Oliva.

[Guest rob]

Padron's are nice NCs, but the reason I never smoke them is the cost; they are as much or more than some great CCs.

That's actually a great point.

Here in Australia, a Padron #9 will cost about $48.

I can buy a Cohiba Sig 6 for the same price.

A Sir Winston will be less than $40

[dicko]

cohiba hands down.

[kaleehb]

That's actually a great point.

Here in Australia, a Padron #9 will cost about $48.

I can buy a Cohiba Sig 6 for the same price.

A Sir Winston will be less than $40

Wow! Are you for real? A Padron Anni. #9 cost $48 in Australia? That's insane.....Never knew it was so inflated there.

[thechenman]

Padrons are my second favorite NC...so I guess you could say that I am a fan. While they are great cigars, I would take a Cohiba over a Padron any day of the week and twice on Sunday. There is just more complexity to a Cohiba...

[kafreeman]

I cant find much of a difference between the thousands line of Padrons or the 1964, 1945 etc.

Im not a big fan of them, they start and end the same.

Though they are consistent, they do get boring. I can buy a lot of CC's that are better for the dinero.

I like Tatuaje's and Illusiones way more than Padrons.

[Guest rob]

Wow! Are you for real? A Padron Anni. #9 cost $48 in Australia? That's insane.....Never knew it was so inflated there.

Yep... and that price is from the cheapest retailer of Padrons. It's no wonder that CCs command the majority of the market share here.

[MIKA27]

What a great thread and more so, question.

I quite enjoy Padrons but also love a Cohiba.

I would say Padrons in my experience are a lot more reliable to be free of defects, made more reliably however the cost for Padrons here in Australia are mega priced compared to the mighty Cohiba.

Having said all that, Cuban cigars are so much more complex compared to NC's and that is the main reason why Id say the Cohibas are for me that little bit more desirable and I love Cohibas.

But.... I do have a few Padrons in my humi when I do wish for a well constructed stogie that is smooth, creamy, mellow and displays perfectly white ash.

[laficion]

But.... I do have a few Padrons in my humi when I do wish for a well constructed stogie that is smooth, creamy, mellow and displays perfectly white ash.

OK, I tried to stay out of this CC vs NC's discussion because that's what it is finally,

but, here I go again ,

SO, all I can say for my part is that I have had the chance to taste quite a few Padrons and

they just don't do it for me. I have not enjoyed any of the vitolas that I've tasted.

They do have a good tobacco taste and also are full cigars but on the whole, they

are really for the market that they're made for.

I have no intention of offending anyone but I do keep myself well informed on the different

trends on cigars in the USA and from what I've seen and heard from the different blogs ,

podcasts and sites plus from what I've smoked thanks to my buddy in N.J., who keeps me

stocked with a good array of NC's , I've noticed that the taste profiles on cigars that a majority of

the cigar smokers are demanding are primarily focused on strength or the strongness of the

cigar rather then on the delicate complexities and evolving tastes on the different thirds of

a cuban smoke. When they do smoke such a cigar, they call that a mild cigar or a cigar that has

a difficult taste.

What they are looking for is straight up right taste and that taste will be, lots of PEPPER or SUGAR.

" Wowww, this cigar has body and great taste, lots of pepper, or lots of candy and sweet tastes or

cake with cream on top". etc. more complexe tastes with hints or notes are of no interest.

For me, that's why the NC's are so one dimensional because that's what the smoker wants.

Take the example of beer, 30 years ago, all the beer drinkers wanted Millers or Bud, if you

had given them a dark Belgium or a beautiful craft, they would have thrown it at your face.

Tatuaje and Illusiones are trying to take the cigars out of this stereotype and maybe one of the

reasons why they are more and more appreciated in Europe then the Padrons or others who

have been here for years but have only had small success and only in northern European

countries where they replaced the Dutch cigars.

As for the Padrons, aside the pepper and the harsh taste at the end and I must add, the matte

wrappers they all have, I don't see where the hype is.

As for the pepper that I'm always hearing about in NC's, well, I do love pepper on my

meals but NOT in my cigars.

[OZCUBAN]

OK, I tried to stay out of this CC vs NC's discussion because that's what it is finally,

but, here I go again ,

SO, all I can say for my part is that I have had the chance to taste quite a few Padrons and

they just don't do it for me. I have not enjoyed any of the vitolas that I've tasted.

They do have a good tobacco taste and also are full cigars but on the whole, they

are really for the market that they're made for.

I have no intention of offending anyone but I do keep myself well informed on the different

trends on cigars in the USA and from what I've seen and heard from the different blogs ,

podcasts and sites plus from what I've smoked thanks to my buddy in N.J., who keeps me

stocked with a good array of NC's , I've noticed that the taste profiles on cigars that a majority of

the cigar smokers are demanding are primarily focused on strength or the strongness of the

cigar rather then on the delicate complexities and evolving tastes on the different thirds of

a cuban smoke. When they do smoke such a cigar, they call that a mild cigar or a cigar that has

a difficult taste.

What they are looking for is straight up right taste and that taste will be, lots of PEPPER or SUGAR.

" Wowww, this cigar has body and great taste, lots of pepper, or lots of candy and sweet tastes or

cake with cream on top". etc. more complexe tastes with hints or notes are of no interest.

For me, that's why the NC's are so one dimensional because that's what the smoker wants.

Take the example of beer, 30 years ago, all the beer drinkers wanted Millers or Bud, if you

had given them a dark Belgium or a beautiful craft, they would have thrown it at your face.

Tatuaje and Illusiones are trying to take the cigars out of this stereotype and maybe one of the

reasons why they are more and more appreciated in Europe then the Padrons or others who

have been here for years but have only had small success and only in northern European

countries where they replaced the Dutch cigars.

As for the Padrons, aside the pepper and the harsh taste at the end and I must add, the matte

wrappers they all have, I don't see where the hype is.

As for the pepper that I'm always hearing about in NC's, well, I do love pepper on my

meals but NOT in my cigars.

Well said 'laficion'

You have saved me a lot of typing here,on this topic, I myself am not saying that there is not a place for NC's,but i myself generally do not touch them simply because,they do not punch my sensory buttons as to speak,and are of no comparison as a taste experience.

For me it is Cohiba every single time no exceptions

Yes they are very expensive here as are all Cigars (Cubans to)

It's sucks for us Americans because we have to jump through hoops just to get CC's,

What hoops do i jump through ? and when

In a way this thread is similar to the iPad /Apple verses PC debate there are no winners or losers and both camps views are polarized (Apple for me though )

But for me it is Cuban all the way that is why i am a member of a "Cuban Cigar Forum" and a bloody good one at that ...

Cheers Oz

[habone]

I think the Padron is a much better cigar. I love CC's and truly think they have a unique taste, but I also think there are several other great cigars from around the world. For me it's important to have a well rounded cigar pallette. It's sucks for us Americans because we have to jump through hoops just to get CC's, The Padron is much better, better taste, richer flavores, better quality. If Habanos SA can get thier quality control under wraps, then the whole game changes. Padron wins for me..