Orion21 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 This is going to be a very short review. . . It tastes like a Bolivar, it has nice twang and its very smooth. However, this cigar is either in a major sick period or a very very mild blend. There is not much going on other than a slight barnyard hay and light tobacco flavor and the last third was almost unsmokable. Very tannic and sour. If you have any give them another 6 months to a year to come back to life. If compared to the RA Celestiales Finos, the same roll, I would smoke the RA everyday of the week and twice in Sunday. A superior cigar right now. Pics to come tomorrow. A beautiful cigar The burn was good thru all but the first 1/4 This was the "best" point of the cigar. The Boli flavors I love and some light coffee made for an enjoyable second third. By the time I hit the RE band the cigar was becoming unsmokable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainQuintero Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 That's been my experience too, incredibly mild and bland. If they come out with a Bolivar Open series I'd imagine this to be what it's like. I don't really know what age could do to it based on what I saw in the cigar apart from balance it out into more blandness :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion21 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Shlomo, I did not smoke the RACF rott because they were supposed to be almost too strong to smoke. I bought my boxes after they had the 1.5-2 years Rob recommended to let then settle down. These Bolivars have the opposite problem from what I see. I'm only calling it how I see it right now. The RACF are fantastic cigars and these Bolis are not enjoyable. Could they come around? Surely, but its going to take some time. The final third had something, but the tannins and sourness completely covered up whatever is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion21 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 I wish I had smoked the cigar you did :-) Bolivar is my favorite marca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk05 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Hey, have you seen Ajay's review when these first landed? How would you contrast? The RA CF were so strong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion21 Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Pictures added as promised mk, I watched Ajays video and I got none of what he is talking about. I honestly think this stick was in a sick period because there is no other explanation. If HSA worked with Ajay to blend this cigar with good tobacco there should be no reason for it to smoke this way. Since his initial tasting was performed on 12/4 of this year there is a real possibility these went back to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Smoking one now. Got to say, I'm impressed. Milder than what I'd expect for a bolivar, but beautifully rich. Developed into an excellent cigar by the last third. Would love a box... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickNick Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I am not so sure these would benefit all that much with age as they are fairly light and easy and smooth to begin with, but if you have a box with some acidity on the back end, a couple years should hopefully get rid of that for you. This is what folks thought of the Monte Sublime as well, but look how that turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypots Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Classics in the making. Good now but they have very long legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion21 Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 Wow man, you brought back an oldie!!! Thanks for posting. I had forgot I wrote this review or I would have updated it about 6 months ago when I smoked my last one. I wish mine were classics, but I have to say I have been very disappointed. The cigar was bland and one dimensional. Nothing like the one I reviewed because all of the tannic sourness had gone away, but what was left was lighter than the current LCDH Bolivar. Decent flavors, but just too light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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