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TheFullMontecristo replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"
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anacostiakat replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"
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05jpowell replied to 05jpowell's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"
I would agree somewhat but I found the BR to be alot more complex -
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Fugu replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"
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Cigars, the heart and soul of cuba
Fugu replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"
Indeed, it is. He’d done some truly great journalistic bits on Cuba in the early days of CA. You have to give him that. Unrivalled, thinking of him whatever one may. Also Marvin Shanken. Obviously can’t do it without a certain amount of pomp and snobbery (perhaps needed for the biz?) and often coming across a tad too condescending for my personal liking, in particular lately. But his early interviews with people in the industry - still today great sources of historical information. Compare that with today’s standards. -
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SigmundChurchill replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"
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Fugu replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"
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Ford2112 replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"
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Fine bourbon whiskey has shown consistent growth (even with/prior COVID being factored). Bourbon production and capacity follows 5 year "cycles" in which surplus or deficit can be projected. As members have already discussed, the next few years should hold more availability at better prices. Knob Creek, Buffalo Trace, and many other distillers are already pivoting towards aging stock a bit longer to combat the affects of gross surplus (Eagle Rare 12 year release, Knob Creek 23 year release). Anything distilled by MGP (distiller conglomerate) with low or no age statement is going to be first on the chopping block. Me personally, I enjoy a good barrel strength non-MGP distillate. My pallet favors grape and stone fruit so naturally I gravitate to Buffalo Trace's Stagg, Eagle Rare, and other kinds of alcohol like Cognac.
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Friday Funny: Parents V Stairs
Dlowil replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] “This staircase is like a battleground swing state. It’s not over til it’s over” [emoji23] -
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mavoo replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"
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Market saturation by NDP’s (Non-Distiller Producers) is a big factor IMO. 95% of bourbon in the world is produced where I live. It’s ALL produced by about half a dozen distillers. NDP’s throw in catch phrases like “heritage, small batch, single barrel, ect.” to make consumers feel like they are getting something rare, exclusive, or exotic. The use a “unique recipe”, change the bottle and label and send it out into the world. Lipstick on a pig. Too many choices. Way too many. 90% of the time I browse the bourbon section for 20 minutes at the local grocery store and pick up the same thing I always do. Why gamble on something they may be a dud in a pretty bottle. No one is going to build a distillery and rick houses to sit on millions of dollars worth of inventory for 4 years minimum when someone with deep pockets can do that for you and assume that risk. It’s easier to rent than own in this scenario. I can see a parallel in the cigar industry in this regard as well. Too many choices in the NC market. Fancy it up, market the s**t out of it, hope a certain magazine puts you in their top 25, etc. I’m sure you don’t start out in the cigar industry by building a cigar factory and buying tons of tobacco to age. You buy aged tobacco from someone. You roll in a space you probably don’t own yourself. All bubbles burst eventually. Just my 2 cents.
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barrygoodvibes replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"
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Ford2112 replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"
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SpecialK replied to El Presidente's topic in Cigars Discussion Forum "the water hole"
Thanks to all here for a great community that doesn't exist anywhere online (and probably no where else either ). Truly grateful for everyone here and thanks to @El Presidente and gang for the oasis. Merry Christmas !!